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Profits over Quality and Customer Satisfaction!!

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 19 / 22
Date: March 11, 2005
Author: Amazon User

"So many bugs, too epic a story, too little time," is what Obsidian must have been saying as the shelf date of it's first collaboration with Lucas Arts was drawing to a close.

The game play was to be flawless; the story was to be epic, more so than the first installment in the series had been. But strapped for time and with Lucas Arts pushing for the game to be on shelves by Christmas, Obsidian was forced to put out a glaringly obvious UNFINISHED GAME.

Many of us, loyal KOTOR series fans, rushed out to buy the game. But as we approached the 45-hour mark, the horrible realization set in that this was, indeed, a rushed game. We fought through the bugs, the moderate load times, the game freezes harder than we fought through any programmed foe and as we approached the end of the game, the last battle, the cold fact was, that many of the plot lines were left dangling, whole subplots discarded; subplots that you spent at least 6 hours of the game attempting to complete! We pressed on anyway, fought the final battle, only to have a promising ending fall completely flat, left with more questions than answers.

Now, I hear you asking now, cliffhangers? No, not cliffhangers, glaringly obvious plot holes, sucking any satisfaction out of your being that you might have had, in completing a 45-hour long game.

The unrealistic time constraint imposed on Obsidian by Lucas Arts, to rush the game out before Christmas was obscenely detrimental to both the game's play and storyline. Lucas Arts seems to have made the choice long ago that profits come before quality and customer satisfaction, a disturbing trend in the gaming industry today; one that must be stopped. We need to show Lucas Arts that bullying smaller production companies into unrealistic time expectancies is unacceptable.

That games that win awards by default and not merit do not win over consumers!

Over the past few months since the games release, PC gamers have found strings of code, and sound clips from what was to be the games original ending, it was to be of EPIC proportions and lead designers of the game have acknowledged the time constraints as a major reason for the cutting of that material. Chris Avellone, lead designer, has even mentioned asking LA for permission to do a content patch, but has yet to hear back.

DO NOT PURCHASE AN UNFINISHED GAME. DEMAND A COMPLETE ONE.

http://www.petitiononline.com/kotor2

~Emily C. Lang

horrible flaws!!!

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 14 / 16
Date: March 11, 2005
Author: Amazon User

This game is horrible. You will spend half of your time playing it restarting the game and trying to figure out what is wrong with your copy of the game. Then you start to read the reviews by the people who bought the game and played the game for any amount of time to find out that it is the game and not your copy. There has been promise of a patch to fix the problem from the development team since the end of february. Although the game is a lot of fun I would definately wait until the problems have been fixed with the patches.

is lucasarts/obsidian running their final tests onthepublic?

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 11 / 14
Date: February 12, 2005
Author: Amazon User

this game at present is in terrible shape. my character has things coming out of his head. also for some reason the camera spins wildly around my character at some times. it appears to be the same engine that powered kotor because it definitely isn't any better looking...so why the problems? lucasarts says low-end video cards are responsible for these errors...sorry guys. my comp is: 2.8 ht p4, 1gig ram, 9800 128mb ati radeon. this game should run fine, especially since it isn't anything comparable to high-end games (in looks) like doom3 or half-life 2, which both ran great on my comp. fix it lucasarts/obsidian! i wouldn't recommend buying this game until these major bugs are fixed. wait a couple of months till they release the real game. avoid!!!!

Be careful what you are buying...

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 12 / 21
Date: February 11, 2005
Author: Amazon User

I am sure the game is great, but before you buy it, do not make my mistake and jump to the store.
The game was promised to be about the same as first installment, however, all these Graphic cards are not supported which unfortunately includes mine, so I am stuck with a 50 dollar piece of software that will not work on my laptop... I am not sure what they changed so it would be so different but the graphics seem to be the same and the original title pretty much took anything.

3dfx Voodoo 2
3dfx Voodoo 3
3dfx Voodoo 4/5 (VSA 100)
3dfx Voodoo Banshee
3dfx Voodoo Graphics (Voodoo 1)
3dfx Voodoo Rush
#9 Ticket to Ride Family
ATI 3D Rage II
ATI Rage 128 Family
ATI Rage Pro Family
ATI Radeon 7000/7200/7500
Intel i740/i810
Intel i845/i865
Intel i915
Matrox G100/G200
Matrox G400/G450/G550
Matrox Millennium P650/P750
Matrox Parhelia 512
Mpact 2
Power VR 250
PowerVR Kyro/Kyro II
PowerVR Neon 250
PowerVR PCX/PCX-2
NVIDIA RIVA 128/128 ZX
NVIDIA RIVA TNT/TNT2 Family
NVIDIA GeForce 256
NVIDIA GeForce 2 MX
Permedia 2
Rendition V1000
Rendition V2100/V2200
S3 DeltaChrome S8
S3 Savage 2000
S3 Savage 3D
S3 Savage 4
S3 ViRGE Family
SiS 315
SiS 6326
SiS Xabre 200/400/600
Trident 3D Image 975/985
Trident Blade3D 9880
Trident BladeXP
XGI Volari V3/V5/V8

I am giving the game one star because I am extremely bitter.

Ray said it best -- Buyer Beware!!

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 12 / 18
Date: February 11, 2005
Author: Amazon User

This game installed on my computer just fine. Then after the first movie played the game crashed. I loaded and tried playing the game 3 more times, it crashed in the same place each time. I have a top of the line computer which plays DOOM3 flawlessly. I want to take this POS back to the store and get my money back, but I can't.

Go ahead and purchase this game, but only if you feel lucky.

Fun game... But not worth the price...

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 10 / 15
Date: March 13, 2005
Author: Amazon User

Do Not Buy This Game!!! There are so many bugs in this game that it is almost unplayable... This is also not a complete game... there are portions of the story that are missing. Lucas Arts to date has also not released a patch and no information is forthcoming on when a patch will be available. If you doubt me, check out both obsidian's forum and lucas art's support forum for proof. In my opinion... those people who have rated this game highly haven't played it enough to experience any of the bugs. It took me four hours to get the game to even start as there was compatibility issues with my graphics card which is well over the recommended specs, issues with dialog skipping, frame rate issues and much more.

This all being said the gameplay is actually really good. They have taken the original gameplay and built off of it so KOTOR fans will be quite happy.

I recommend people wait to buy this game untill the price goes down, or at least wait untill the patch has been released for a while and tested by the general public as obviously Lucas Art's game testers have are obvious to any problems.

No ending at all!

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 11 / 14
Date: March 15, 2005
Author: Amazon User

This game is incomplete and has no ending at all! Story doesn't make sense, lots of bugs... Furthermore, lots of stuff leaved unexplained because developers just simply went over and cut a huge part of the game.. While doing so, they forgot to fix the story.. So you will see some scenes that means nothing, some quests that go nowhere... Stay away from this game and save your 50 bugs and spend it to something else..

DONT buy this broken game

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 10 / 15
Date: April 05, 2005
Author: Amazon User

game is messed up and obsidian and LA wont release the patch. You will never be able to finish the game if you buy it. It has been two months since they said they were working in a patch and now they just ignor us. They no longer care about their customers. They got our money and wont fix their broken game. Do yourself a huge favor and pass up all lucas arts and obsidian games including this one.

Resting on their Laurels

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 9 / 13
Date: February 15, 2005
Author: Amazon User

The game is a big disappointment.

There are way too many bugs for this game to have gone Gold. (When running the game on a P4 3.2 GHz system with 2 Gig of ram with an ATI RADEON® 9800 PRO 256MB video card with the latest catalyst drivers, the game was crashing every 15 to 20 minutes.)

One reviewer suggests wait for a patch... after we waited for the game for two months after the Xbox release, I thought this one would have been playable out of the box.

It seems to me that the game just isn't done yet.

There is so much detail that isn't there. While they did a lot of work on the new logo (which is prominent everywhere) they didn't flush out and pay attention to the details of the game. It's not a rich and full as the first game was. It's as if they were resting on their laurels and expecting this game to be a success because the first game was. The problem is that the first game was such a success because of its innovation. While there are changes and upgrades in KotOR II, there is very little innovation.
The AI seems worse in this version not better. The graphics are the same. The maps have the same feel (different planet same map...)

I admit that I expected a lot from the sequel.
I expected it to feel and play like this year's Game of the Year.
It looks like I expected too much.

Bargain bin already! - Prediction: token patch, zero apology

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 9 / 10
Date: March 07, 2005
Author: Amazon User

LucasArts has shot themselves in the foot. I'm afraid (for all of us) that it's too late to hope for them to truly correct their errors. This long delay for the patch is an indicator that the company is already cutting their losses and moving on. The price of the game is already falling rapidly at retailers.

To see just how worthless the disks are to those of us who pre-bought the game or bought it in the first week: an auction just closed on a popular auction site (no names) at just above thirty percent what I paid on pre-order. The market is determining the real value of the game, as the word spreads about how weak this offering is.

I say we stick it to LA this way: all of us who hate this half-*craft* piece of *work* should simply put them up for sale on *popular auction selling sites*. Flood the market. They're already selling for way below half of the original price. If we all put ours up for sale, the price would drop below twenty percent of original price...One hundred percent of which LucasArts will never see.

I was hoping for them to come through and correct their mistakes. I was hoping they would realize how sales were going to be hurt because of the overwhelming negative response to their slop.

But now I see the truth: they tricked a bunch of us into buying early, and now they are pretty much just going to abandon it. Mark my words: the patch will be nothing more than a "token patch" They view us as guinea pigs in a failed experiment.

... who's next in line?

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