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Wait about 6 months for some patches to build up

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 16 / 22
Date: November 04, 2006
Author: Amazon User

My jaw dropped when this game would not play on my computer. I have a brand new Alienware Area51 ALX that is less than 3 weeks old. I literally had to cut everything off (graphics wise) on it.. and it was still a slow buggy experience. In a panic (thinking my machine was messed up) I took it too my friends computer that is a Dell XPS700.. and was met with the same results.

Im not returning the game .. because I think there may be some goodness here... but as of right now.. my cutting edge supercomputer can't play it.

Very dissapointed.

I loved the first- and this was horrible!!!

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 17 / 24
Date: November 04, 2006
Author: Amazon User

Please do not waste your money, like I did. The game is VERY buggy, and has tons of broken elements. It was clearly done on a low budget, and is just leveraging the great success of the first version.

The graphics look like they are from the mid-90's, and the gameplay is just... a joke. So sad- I wish I could get a refund. Especially, because my game broke only part way though. (my brothers snagged on a bug even earlier). I feel robbed and cheated... and mostly just dissapointed.

Still A Way To Go...

3 Rating: 3, Useful: 11 / 13
Date: December 07, 2006
Author: Amazon User

I was so looking forward to NWN2 - I loved the Baldur's Gate & NWN series from Bioware; and to a lesser extent the Icewind Dale games. The pre-release hype implied this would be NWN with radically improved graphics, especially scenery, with a more BG feel to the game and interface and everyone expected such. Instead Obsidian seem to have scrapped the entire engine & toolset (the most developed parts of NWN) and rebuilt from scratch. However they recycled many voice scripts & background music from the original! So you get a new game engine that is basically similar to NWN on the surface (but nominally to D&D 3.5 Edition standards), but which has no new features of any huge merit and a limited quality rendering for your character customisation and only limited new original sounds (voice, ambient, or music).

NWN2 also exhibits similar bugs to what NWN had, in fact on first release it had more originally but by the 5th Patch (version 1.03.840 on 05 December) it has at least reduced to a more acceptable level. However some characters in game are seriously hampered by bugs (e.g. Defensive Casting mode is erratic for spell casters). NWN2 was probably released too soon and it is yet to be seen whether Obsidian (& Atari) have a genuine commitment to support the game long-term as considerable patching and improvement will still be required.

Graphically the game is visually impressive in some areas (notably Outdoors Terrain), but the poor customisation capability for characters, limited variety of interior terrain, poor spell effect graphics, and issues with frame rates undermine this. Obsidian have also indicated they may not offer any real support for PWs; and only minimal MP support! I don't dislike this game, but I am disappointed, apart from the overall first impression of the outdoors graphics it offers little over the original NWN and expansions. I expect the game may be worth 4 stars by about June 2007 if Obsidian are committed to improvement.

I purchased the Limited Edition (DVD) version, primarily to get the extra Feat & Store Items in game, although the artwork book is also nice (but features spoilers so shouldn't be read until after playing). The NZ/Au version of the LE seems to be much better than the UK/European one. Despite what the packaging says you will actually need about 6.5GB to install, and about 7GB free space to play & patch).

If you have not previously played the original NWN and expansions you may get much better value from buying them (Platinum or Diamond Editions are recommended) and downloading additional Premier or Free modules off the Internet until NWN2 has been further debugged & enhanced.

An unfairly criticized game

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 15 / 21
Date: November 13, 2006
Author: Amazon User

I've been playing this game for a few days now and I must say that I'm really enjoying it, i'd give it a 9/10 overall. After reading page after page of nay sayer's reviews and fearing that it wasn't going to be that great, I am pleasantly surprised. It seems that most complaints you hear are about the system requirements. Let me put this into perspective - I have been recently playing the original NWN on my system with alot of the tweaks turned on (anti-aliasing, etc) and the framerate drops dramatically during big combat scenes (BTW, my specs: AMD Athlon 64 4000+, 256 MB Raedon x850 graphics card, 2 gigs ram). On NWN2 I have LESS lag than on the original with the tweaks turned on. I think most complaints are because people's systems aren't powerful enough to run the game properly but, as anyone who follows game design knows, these days, software is ahead of hardware. Remember when Oblivion came out and people were talking about horrible framerates and rendering issues? This is no fault of the game.

The character models are detailed and really nicely designed. Some have said that there aren't many options as far as modifying your appearance but, if you factor in skin tones, hair styles, armor and weapons, etc there are LOTS of variations (NO, it's not as varied as Oblivion, but what other game is? Plus, most of the time there is going to be a helmet on your head, do we really need to see how pretty and full your character's lips are or how arched your eyebrows are?). There are ALOT more sub-races to choose from in this game. Some of the more powerful ones carry a leveling penalty, ie - 1,2 or 3 levels behind standard characters. The monsters designs are fantastic. Really I'm quite impressed by how great they look. Enviroment designs aren't as detailed but still good (remember the blockiness of NWN's backgrounds?) plus you can see the sky which has nice details like twinkling stars at night. As has been said before, the magic effects are terrific and offer so much more eye-candy than NWN or perhaps any other game I know of.

Lots of people have complained about how difficult the camera is. This is simply untrue - you have basically the same options as in NWN and one more "free mode" which, to me, is useless. It does seem that the camera freaks out sometimes either by unwanted zooming or rotating but that may be because of my controller and isn't necessarily a game design flaw.

The new drop down menus all seem user friendly to me (they quit using the radial menu from NWN). You have a FULL 10 LEVELS of quick menu at the bottom of the screen to use. My biggest pet peeve so far (and it's a small one!) is that when you overwrite a game, you have to type a name for it and can't automatically use the old one.

I am really looking forward to developing my character (Tiefling bard/future red-dragon disciple), exploring the game further and seeing what user content (modules, hacks, etc) comes out for it. Although there are some minor technical issues, this game stands as a major achievement and upcoming patches (the first of which is already out) will only improve it's stability and gameplay. If you're into computer RPGs, this, like NWN before it, is an incredible value. Don't believe the hype - this is a great game.

Buy the original instead

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 14 / 19
Date: November 04, 2006
Author: Amazon User

The story line in the game is interesting so far, and after playing the first in a variety of environments my expectations were quite high.

However the list of drawbacks are too painful to ignore. The user interface is extremely awkward. In many cases the only way to take action is to right click and wait for the context menu. Many of the keyboard shortcuts are gone. The camera is a constant awkward distraction, extremely annoying and frustrating. Every time a conversation starts all characters in the party are frozen. If any character moves to another zone, the whole part is brought as well.

These detract so much from the game that my wife refuses to play after enjoying the last one, and looking forward to this since it was announced.

Sad, buggy sequel- Developers should feel shamed

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 18 / 28
Date: November 03, 2006
Author: Amazon User

Please do not waste your money, like I did. The game is VERY buggy, and has tons of broken elements. It was clearly done on a low budget, and is just leveraging the great success of the first version.

The graphics look like they are from the mid-90's, and the gameplay is just... a joke. So sad- I wish I could get a refund. Especially, because my game broke only part way though. (my brothers snagged on a bug even earlier). I feel robbed and cheated... and mostly just dissapointed.

It's not as good as the original

3 Rating: 3, Useful: 9 / 10
Date: November 06, 2006
Author: Amazon User

I have no running problems on my computer, most likely because I have a brand new duo core system. As for the game, i've played it for a few days now and I have to say, that although it's enough fun to play for several hours straight, it's not as good as the original Neverwiner Nights (and all the expansion packs).

So what's wrong? It's visually beautiful, but it doesn't play like the old game does. The world is more confined (you can't just go running off the road every time you feel like it) and you can only enter a few houses in the major cities. I feel like there's less creativity and freedom in this game. It seems to center more on visuals, than creativity or playability.

As for the new multiple companions, it's a pretty cool feature, but they really didn't advance the problems that needed to be fixed from the original. One problem is they still keep getting stuck in akward places. Another is sometimes if you enter another room and are attacked, the companions will just stand outside like they're ready to fight, but do nothing about it.

Maybe I haven't gotten far enough in the game, but I haven't really seen anything original. Like someone else here said, it's almost like playing an expansion pack. For the most part, everything is pretty much set up like the original as well. Now, I do realize that the designers didn't want to spoil what was working all along, but i'm really unimpressed with the newer features. This game seems more like a way to milk more money from the Neverwinter Nights fans, without putting in the proper elbow grease to make it as special as it should be.

So, you're probably wondering, why did I give it 3 stars then? Despite the real lack of improvement, it feels similar to the old game. And the old game was so much fun, that even a watered down version is still fun to play.

why oh why did you fail so miserably

3 Rating: 3, Useful: 9 / 10
Date: March 08, 2007
Author: Amazon User

I played nwn 1 for years both single player and on persistant worlds. I downloaded coutless mods with it and overall thought it was one of the best games made. why then does nwn2 score so horribly on my list? well for one they released a game that wouldn't run without lag even on a machine that would easily play Oblivion. It has constant crashes some have labeled as AMD crashes (hey i think most gamers use amd maybe you should test your games on systems that have it too...) the main quest bored me within the first act, and trust me i was really looking forward to getting a keep and tinkering around with it...but i got so bored on the path to getting one i just couldn't continue any longer.

why would any game company think its reasonable to release a game for players to beta test. now dont get me wrong there will be bugs that make it past the companies testers, but honestly this game has only been out for a few months and already has version 1.04 out? If i'm gonna have to beta test perhaps i should get the product at a reduced price. I'm still waiting for all the kinks to be worked out so that i can actually go from one area to the next without it crashing either my computer or the game.

graphically its not bad especially when you consider that anyone can make modules for this game if they learn a little bit of scripting. but the load times between areas are horrible even with a high end machine.

If you're a fan of NWN 1 keep playing it and wait a few more months then perhaps they'll have all the kinks ironed out and this game will be worth playing.

Was excited--- now disappointed. SAVE YOUR MONEY & WAIT FOR THE CLEANUP TO COME (hopefuly) !!!

2 Rating: 2, Useful: 10 / 12
Date: January 04, 2007
Author: Amazon User

I am a once-a-week gamer. My buddies and I play the multiplayer option of NWN1 as much as we can. We loved this game for the past 2 years.

So you can imagine that we all got excited about NWN2 and ran out and bought it. Guess what? We are now playing NWN1 again as different characters. SAVE YOUR MONEY!!!

I am not going to go into all the shortcomings about NWN2 here, because that has all been done already by MANY reviewers before me... I can just tell you that I recommend you hold off for now, replay NWN1 or get into any of the quests that have been made by third-party developers if you are bored by the original campaigns... they may be buggy, but so is NWN2...

I am not trying to be a beta tester for NWN2... I want to play and NWN1 looks great, the interface is much smaller scale and refined and I don't even see the graphics improvement in NWN2 over NWN1...

AND THE CAMERA SUCKS !!!

Also- if any characted in multiplayer mode stops to talk to someone, everyone in the party locks up and has to wait it out...

and the movies are WAY too long...

AND it'sd annoying that everyone in the party goes into each new area together... it REALLY SLOWS DOWN GAMEPLAY!!! (sorry- couldn't help myself!)

I just hope the folks at BioWare start issuing some heavy-duty patches and fixes and really listen to their customers by reading reviews like these... otherwise I will be playing NWN1 forever!

FAILURE!!!

still pulling out my hair

3 Rating: 3, Useful: 11 / 14
Date: November 29, 2006
Author: Amazon User

Well I waited for this game to come out for a long time. I just finished playing it yesterday. To be honest with you all I had to make myself finish this game. In Nwn One I couldn't wait to get back to playing it, I loved it. This game was about as exciting as having teeth pulled. Over the course of this game I have seen some really bad flaws. I will tell you the worst for me. If you want to fight an enemy in this game you will have to pause this game. The click area around an enemy is too small. I have seen a lot of complaints about this one. You have to pause, click on the enemy, and then unpause to fight. Oh yeah and rotate the camera and oh yeah rotate the camera some more. Folks it's a mess. I feel I wasted 50 bucks on this game. The ending was short had a lot of cut scenes. My question is where are the puzzles to solve? NWN one had a lot of puzzles and quest. NWN2 has a few quests, which were very annoying, and no puzzles to solve. I could go on and on but I would be here all night. If you are a fan of NWN One then wait for the price to reduce. Maybe they can save this game somehow. There is supposed to be an update to fix the cameras. I was in the middle of playing Baldurs Gate 2 when this game came out. The entire time I couldn't wait to finish NWN2 so I could go back to playing Baldurs Gate 2. Its up to you if you want to buy this game but please don't pay 50 bucks for this game. You will regret it as much as I do now.

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