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Battle Field I hope you are paying attention.

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 16 / 16
Date: June 22, 2004
Author: Amazon User

Let's keep this short and sweet.
The good
Night vision, day-night lighting cycle, bullet drop, thick varied vegatation and functional camouflage (can you say ambush?), varied terrain, fun maps, usefull vehicles, BIG rolling battles, gorgeous/sublime lighting, excellent water (you can even go Rambo and swim under it), duh items like being able to climb up onto rocks and vehicles no need to jump.

The point capture system is more realistic so no more halo drops in the rear by one guy to capture a teams main base (It'll take a team effort to take a point now).

NO PARACHUTES! Nothing more satisifying than tagging a helicopter with a stinger and watching everyone on board fall from the sky.

Vehicles don't magically dissapear after being destroyed and jeeps don't auto explode everytime you run into something.

Snipers are everwhere and quite dangerous, though bullet drop will seperate the men from the boys. Weapons balance is pretty much right on. Various factors such as weapon report, flash, and effective range combined with time of day and server limits keeps the M60 stupidity of BFV from rearing it's ugly head.

Armory (Ammo crates) have time limits on them so no more rocket or grenade spaming.

The Bad
Helicopters are so dumbed down that they are boring (no skill required), but at the same time can you load a couple of vehicles in the back of a Chinook along with 10 guys or have 3-4 guys hanging out of a scout helicopter. Makes for some interesting battles and reinforcements. So basically if all you like to do is fly, and by fly I mean you have to actually have some skills to do so, then this game has nothing to really offer you.

They need to work on the sound some more,the individual weapons don't sound distinct enough from on another and distance and echo effects don't work that well making it difficult to judge distances (Could be my sound card though SB audigy). I would suggest surround sound for better game play.

I'm having a hard time with coming up with more negatives. Very fun game, not as arcade and over the top play as the Battlefield series, but not as restrictive as many of the tactical shooters out there. Currently I only have the demo I would strongly suggest downloading it and see for yourself. (Mine's on order)

http://www.jointopsthegame.com/

You want this game!

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 11 / 11
Date: July 07, 2004
Author: Amazon User

After reading a couple of bum reviews posted by others, I chose to submit this review regarding the awesome gameplay I've encountered in JO. True to a few comments I've heard, I do not recommend this game to anyone who doesn't have DSL or a fairly modern video card (and processor-I have an Athlon 2200 and it works fine). Other than that though: you're set. Novalogic has vigilantly released patches to deal with almost all the issues that have come up (very few indeed!) and I've been rocking hard ever since! The maps, the team dynamics, the gameplay itself and easy learning curve (compare this to the near impossible mastery of any aircraft in battlefield 1942) make this a game with lots of depth for newbie and master strategist alike. The fact that you can engage so many people (I usually play on servers that host 70-100 people) at once makes for a more interesting and definitley fun experience. The day/night weather cycels are not to miss and the sheer number of weapons, uniforms/camo, vehicles to drive and maps make this, in my book, the definitive multi-player game out there right now. Pick it up-you won't regret it! just be wary of what it says on the box: although many people were initially turned away by the box reading something about having to pay for a 'premium service' everyting is absolutely free with no monthly fee at all (novalogic has since cleared this up at the official forums for the website) In conclusion, check it out: this game will own you!

Underwear X (if you see me out in the jungle, give me a holler!)

Good game, but keep this in mind...

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 8 / 8
Date: July 01, 2004
Author: Amazon User

If you have a 56K connection and you're contemplating spending $40.00 or more for Joint Operations: Typhoon Rising, let this be a warning to you.

If you read the game packaging you'll read the following: "Gigantic MAPS. Battle it out with up to 150 players on maps larger than 50 square KM - never before has a real time war been duplicated at this scale. Breakthrough technology allows you to play on a 56K connection as `smooth as silk'."

You'll also notice on the system requirements: "Internet play: 56K Internet connection required to play. Broadband (Cable or DSL) connection recommended for server hosting."

Here is your warning; don't believe what you read! It will not run "Smooth as Silk" with a 56K connection. You will be warping and jumping all over the map. If you think that you'll have the same game experience as you did when playing Black Hawk Down online you will soon get a major dose of "what the heck is going on here!".

I made my purchase decision based on the first Joint Operations demo. That game Did play "Smooth as Silk" if you had a 56K connection. Little did I know Nova would mess it up.

So you have a couple options:

1. Wait until you have a broadband connection before purchasing the game.

Or

2. Spend $40 (or more) to play the 13 pathetic training missions and then put the game on a shelf and go back two playing Black Hawk Down.

With that said, I finally got a DSL connection and I really enjoy the game. In fact If it wasn't for some very minor problems, it would get 5 stars.

Many people complain about the game play, but a lot of problems come from the players themselves; they don't use "TEAMWORK" which is a must in this game; Rambos need not apply! If you don't work as a team, you won't get much out of it.

See you online - NAVSPECWARCOM (player name)

Don't say you were not warned.

Not a single player friendly game but great game!

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 5 / 5
Date: June 24, 2004
Author: Amazon User

I am new to the FPS type games but I like this game alot! To bad they didn't design it for single player to..........I know all the kids love multiplayer now but it takes more talent to write a great single player game than multiplayer! This has some potential for single player missions and campaign so hopefully they come out with a expansion pack soon. I never have played BFV but with all the down talk on that game I didn't buy it especially when your paying $39.99 for a bad game...........if it is what they say so I bought JO: Typoon Rising instead for the same price and I am not disapointed! I have Far Cry and think that is the best FPS out there right now but like I said earlier, this game is great here's why:

Graphics are decent not like FC's but hey who could get a game looking that good!

You can drive any thing you want from BH's helicopters to jeeps and HV's.

AI in training missions is great but has a very weak single player mode: MEANT TO BE PLAYED IN MULTIPLAYER TOTALY!!! so don't buy it if you want to play in single player at all unless you will except a half a dozen or so training missions? It's still fun to try all the different weapons and vehicles and there is even a assult mission or two (one were AI is attacking you and vis-versa) at the end.

Helicopters are very easy to fly and alot easier than BFV of what I've heard?

Huge maps which take forever to walk across-this I like!

Only one CD game: Not five like Far Cry!

Overall, it's a great game even if it is only meant to be played in Multiplayer Mode which it seems that's were all FPS's are going these day's. Not good for the old-timers!

I rate it 4/5 for play and user friendly vehicle controls just like Far Cry's controls-easy!

PS If you want hard vehicle controls go play a Flight Sim 2004, this is combat! and you should be concentrating on that not if you can get a helicopter off the ground!

Beats Battlefield In My Book

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 5 / 5
Date: November 01, 2004
Author: Amazon User

First off, beat the system requirements for this game. You will start to lag around 60 players online on an Athlon 1.4 Ghz.

This is a rather realistic team first person shooter. Teamwork is a must for taking objectives. Don't play this game if you want a deathmatch online experience. Team Deathmatch is included as gametype but it can become frustrating since death can come in so many forms and you rarely expect it.

The vehicle physics are very forgiving. I've driven off two cliffs in a Humvee and the vehicle suffered only minor damage. Getting around trees usually involves simply a small twist of the mouse. Forests are easily traveled through in anything but the light armored vehicles. Helicopters are essentially flying jeeps. Don't expect to pull off any crazy stunts or maneuvers. Most vehicles require two people, one to drive and one to fire. Only the attack helicopters can be piloted solo.

Weapons have very good ballistic models. You'll have to range find first if you're going to be a sniper. Automatic fire causes your gun to climb.

I love the realism in the game. City battles are tough and fast. The only annoying bit is that snipers can easily mow down a spawn point. You'll usually die just trying to get the sniper. Tanks sometimes take too many anti-tank rockets to tank down. Sometimes it'll take just one, other times three.

Buy this game if you want a dash of realism but you also want good team play. You'll also get more than just your one life in CS.

Not Perfect, but still tons of fun

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 7 / 9
Date: September 05, 2004
Author: Amazon User

Joint Operations is by no means a perfect game, desipte all of the hype. It is clear right from the get-go that this a battlefield compeititor. In some cases, Novalogic succeeds in creating a better Battlefield game, in other areas, it fails.

Joint Ops is set in the near future when a UN task force made up of special ops forces from all over the globe respond to an uprising in Indonesia. The story doesnt matter much, since there is no single player game other than the excellent training levels. Other than that, the entire game is played online. Now to the pros and cons:

Pros-
Excellent ballisitc models
Vehicles are easy to use - so easy that they put BF: Vietnam to shame
Vehicles include helicopters, zodiacs, patrol boats, and jeeps/humvees (the list goes on)
Multiple classes of soldiers to play as, each with unique abilities
Gargantuan maps, can take a long time to get across
Advance and Secure mutliplayer mode is a blast

Cons-
Frequent deaths, and 90% of the time, you won't see your killer
The massive 150 ppl servers can get a little too laggy to play. Stick to 80 or fewer ppl.
All to easy for snipers to camp at your spawn point and pick off ppl as they spawn and try to fly away in helicopters.
Only two vehicles allow you to fly and shoot at the same times.

In conclusion- JO is by no means perfect. At the same time, you will find yourself being drawn back from more of it's action packed gameplay. Novalogic succeeded in creating a Battlefield equal, but not a superior.

Additional Notes -
You MUST have broadband. It says that 56k will work fine. It doesnt.
I ran the game on low settings with a Nvidia GeForce 2 MX/MX 400 with nary a stutter. On a newr card, such as the Nvidia 6800 Ultra, the game looks SPECTACULAR.
Have at least a GeForce 2 or an ATI 7500.

Novalogic Does it right this time...

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 6 / 7
Date: June 17, 2004
Author: Amazon User

I don't know what some people are whining about on the forums. This is a darn good FPS. I played it for about 5 hours yesterday and for a 1CD game, I was surprised at the level of the graphics and content from this game. Novalogic has affiliated themselves with NVidia and this is a bit of a dissapointment for me because I use an ATI GC and I work at ATI, but even on my ATI 9800 Pro, the game looks sweet and runs like butter. I was also impressed with the level of control and realism in this product. For example, you have to calibrate sniping distance using binoculars and then adjusting your crosshairs accordingly. The mortars, grenade launchers, etc.. work off the same principles.

The foliage is rendered brilliantly, even better than BF Vietnam, and I love BF. When shells or bullets hit water, the effect is simply amazing. Flying around in the copters was a lot easier to learn than in BF or Desert Combat. Novalogic decided to keep the flying vehicle controls simple and this is fine with me. Also, it took a bit of an adjustment to get used to the controls, but trust me if you do thee training missions, they become a snap to learn.

Try the demo out and then decide for yourselves if it is for you. Don't listen to too many critics...this game is top notch. Hey, remember how many patches BF1942 had to go thru to get it to what it is today? And yet it still ended up getting Game of the Year awards. I think this one has a lot of potential too.

Adult Gamester Loves This One

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 6 / 7
Date: July 09, 2004
Author: Amazon User

I have always felt lost in online versions of BF1942 because (a) traditional strategy, stealth and teamplay were almost non-existent and (b) survival depended on your ability to constantly keep moving and jump around in random patterns, all while shooting anything that moved. I'm 53, old for a lot of these games, but I'm also an avid paintball player who can keep up with the teens and young adults very well in "walk on," big team versions of that game which rely more on stealth and strategy. I've found that many of the same tactics I use successfully in paintball -- and, for that matter, which I learned while in the Army from 72-77 -- work quite well in Joint Operations Typhoon Rising. I'll still learning how to play the game really well, but steadily improving. The game also allows me to play co-op versions offline -- me against any number of opponents. Play one on 10 or one on 20 AI opponents is great practice for my skills, so I like this option. I also think that there's a place in this game for anyone with relatively little practice, so you don't have to feel completely out-played by those who live their lives online. Buy it, you'll like it. And if you see VET72-77 online, let's jump in any vehicle together and rock 'n roll.

Followup Review

3 Rating: 3, Useful: 7 / 10
Date: June 02, 2004
Author: Amazon User

First off i woulld like to aplogize to those of you who were fooled by the last guys review...
This game does not now and will never have anything to do with EA Games or the battlefield 1942 franchise. It is made by novalogic and is the next step in there sereis of their acclaimed counter-terrorism games; the deltaforce series. I would give this game a rating of three stars because the game is very fun and the vehichles add a unique twist on gameplay but very little seems to have changed since delta force black hawk down. The weapon models are exactly the same and their seems to be very little graphical improvement since bhd. otherwise the beta was very fun. I would say that this game is a definate must-buy for hardcore fans of the franchise but otherwise look out for the upcoming battlefield2 for vehicular and classbased tactical combat. The game will have all the classic deltaforce multiplayer matches including deathmatch,team deathmatch and king of the hill but the addition of the vehichles should make for an interesting change in tactics.Hopefully the singleplayer will be a littl less objective oriented and more open ended. For those of you who have not played the demo, download it from novalogic.com

There's a reason it's called Joint Operations

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 5 / 6
Date: June 29, 2004
Author: Amazon User

The out-of-box experience was a little frustrating. Thanks to a little bug, if you played through a router, you'd sometimes have trouble connecting on a NovaWorld server. A few days later, a patch was available and took care of the problem.

Once the game got rolling, it was a lot of fun. Hardcore MMOG gamers were working together to get the job done. The idea is TEAMWORK. Having a little bit of a plan helps a lot. If you try to take out the bad guys by your lonesome self, you'll just get to respawn more than everyone else.

After several hours of playing, I'm ready for a little more variety. I'm looking forward to the expansion packs/redeux for this one.

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