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Worst car game ever!!!!

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 9 / 24
Date: June 10, 2005
Author: Amazon User

This has to be the most booooooring game ever for the PS2. The only good thing is the types of cars you can drool over but never can drive. I especially like the Subaru selection Like the Legacy Wagon and the VW Beetle which only goes 19 MPH. How lame do you have to be to include these cars in a racing game. The controls are stiffer than my mom's gin and tonics. The cars react like your driving them on an Atari 2600 joystick. What good is a car game if you can't do donuts in the parking lot?
The soundtrack has got to be the most uninspiring music I have ever heard on a video game. How can you race fast listening to Joe Satriani and Earth Wind and Fire? How gay is it to rock out to Papa Roach while replaying your race with a Volvo station wagon? Anyone who enjoys smoking bong loads of dope while the you constantly crash into invisible walls and roadblocks will love this game. Anyone who has actually taken a real driving lesson and has a real license and drives a real car will just be waisting there money on a pre-pubescent fantasy about driving Jay Lenos roadster. Stay away from this game.

hollywood racing at its worst

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 6 / 172
Date: February 10, 2004
Author: Amazon User

Just as Hollywood movies are terrible compared to independent films, this piece of rubbish racing title is all flare and no substance. It looks astonishing, but it ends there. Shoddy controls, irritating reflexive turnstyle upending, and jackbumping over-compensation are only the beginnings of the numerous problems with this game. Avoid this one like the plague folks. Just look at the good reviews here! Most are by people who have not yet played this game!

Disappointed

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 6 / 54
Date: March 07, 2005
Author: Amazon User

Very disappointed with the final product, all the hype led me to thinking much more of it.

However good it comes.. not worth the intentional wait...

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 4 / 48
Date: October 18, 2004
Author: Amazon User

Too bad that SCEA decided to INTENTIONALLY delay this game to extend the life of the PS2 console one more Xmas period.
We, avid GT fans have had to pay for this by wating.. and waiting.... and waiting.... and waiting.... and waiting.... and waiting.... and waiting.... and waiting.... and waiting.... and waiting....
That's why not matter HOW GOOD IT IS... IT IS NOT WORTH THE WAIT !!!!!!
I hope someone delivers a similar game and we al bai out.. heck I am even considering changing consoles just for revenge.
Of course the fame will be good, but I rate dit as 1 star becaus as a Sony Playstation costumer I feel fooled, I feel used heck I don't feel.. I am SURE SCEA is playing with me.

hurry up and release the game already

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 3 / 54
Date: December 01, 2004
Author: Amazon User

please release this game so it can be in the discount bins by june 2005 already.

lets be honest this game is going to stink because of all the postponements.

its safe to say that this game is going to be like need speed underground 2 and be a huge disappointment.

if not sony would have already released it and made a ton of cash off of it during the holidays.

talk about stalling until the ps3 comes out. buy this game and you will be playing into the greedy hands of sony.

Major Flaws!

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 2 / 16
Date: April 13, 2005
Author: Amazon User

I'm personally disatisfied with this one. Poor graphics and manufacturer's defects. Youselect the first driving section ( you have 4 choices ), and then from the new menu select the 2nd course and do it in B-Spec mode, and you will see what I'm talking about.

As the race goes on, there are several times where the screen goes fuzzy to where you can't make out the timer or anything else. I thought at first, it was a bad CD so I exchanged it for a new one.. only to have the new one do the same thing. I even took the game to a friends house and it does the same thing.

Very poor quality and I would expect more from an expensive game!

TOO MANY DELAYS FOR GT4

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 1 / 71
Date: November 22, 2004
Author: Amazon User

i'm tired of all the delays. just release the game. this game is going to stink just like gt3 did.

i sold my copy of gt3 after a week because i got bored with it. it had crappy graphics.

THE CARS IN GT3 WERE IMPOSSIBLE TO CONTROL HOPEFULLY GT4 WILL BE AN IMPROVEMENT. HINT.

Do not be fooled!!!

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 16 / 34
Date: May 07, 2005
Author: Amazon User

I cannot emphasize this enough... this game is BAD.

My opinion of the top reviewer's (Rex's) review of this game is that this guy is clearly one of the developers of this game, and just came to Amazon to pump up his own game. He wrote his review long before the release of this game. And, he knows WAY too much about a game that theoretically he only got to play by chance for a couple hours. Furthermore, WHEN did he say he played this game?? A couple YEARS before its release?? How good could this game have been at that point?? It was undeveloped, unfinished, and he only played for an hour or two?? C'mon, get real, now this is his FAVORITE game??? Uuugh, gimme a break. If it was as good as Rex said it was at that point, I seriously doubt they would have needed to delay its release for as long as they did. Not to mention, this guy geographically lives in the heart of game development, happens to mention that he was at a game developers forum, and has driven Laguna Seca, and knows FAR too many technical details about a game that he theoretically had nothing to do with developing.... All I have to say is, YEAH RIGHT, I wasn't born yesterday. As far as I'm concerned, it's FAR more likely that this guy is a developer of this game, coming to Amazon giving it a great review to pump up sales of his own product... rather than the alternative that this guy is a gamer who stumbled across the opportunity to play this game 2 years before its release, and decided that at that undeveloped stage, it's already his most favorite game.... Uuugh. Now, after his review of the game which was written long before its release, this guy is Amazon's TOP REVIEWER????? Come on, people. You don't get anywhere in life by being so gullible as to fall for an unfeasible story like Rex's.

Anyway, what do I hate about this game??? Well, vastly the WORST thing about this game is that they've made it ridiculously difficult to get anywhere. This game is just plain NOT FUN. (And believe me, I'm not bad at these games.) 100 races into this game, you're still strapped for cash, can't upgrade your cars, can't buy new ones, fighting for 4th place in your 15 year old used 69hp econobox piece of junk that can't get out of its own way. Whose idea was it to make you start with OLD/USED cars first, and have to fight your way to making these horrible cars win against vastly superior cars?? What a joke. Believe me, you'll be about 250 races into this game before you can finally buy your first new car, or first fun old muscle car, and when you finally get that far, it's just going to be an average nothing car. By the time you finally get into hot new cars, or old expensive classic muscle cars that are fun to drive, you'll be old and gray (and bored to tears).

You really really really really need to make a lot of races to build up your used piece of junk cars well enough to finally start winning reliably. And, just when you finally start winning in the beginner races, you try to go into the intermediate races with your used junk, and forget it. You're broke, you can't buy new ones because you have no money (because you constantly spend all of your money souping up your used junk), and there's no way on Earth that you're going to win in the intermediate class against VASTLY better cars. So, what do you do? You race another hundred times in the beginner leagues, same old races you ran before, to build up enough winnings to finally buy yourself a newer hotter car. I think the only way you can possibly get anywhere is to transfer your money from GT3 using the transfer option. Because, believe me, if you just play GT4 on its own merits, trying to build up your cars without tranferring data from GT3 (if you owned that game), you're in for a LLOONNNNGGG struggle. Personally, I preferred to play the game without "cheating" by transferring money from GT3, but now I really regret it. At least I could have gotten a bit of a head start into GT4, cutting off SOME of the terrible long effort to get anywhere if I had transferred from GT3. However, even if I was smart enough to transfer money from GT3, believe me this game is just plain LONG and DIFFICULT. Transferring from GT3 will give you the head start of one or two good cars. But, you're still in for a long and unfun battle. Forget about finishing this game with 100% if you have any kind of a life whatsoever. Anybody who has finished 100% of this game without some sort of a cheat or something like that must either be unemployed, or have no friends, or is a games tester being PAID to finish the game. (And, I finished GT3 three times, and still I'm saying I can't even stand to play GT4.) Some of the races are just sooooo long and unbearable. And, you need some SERIOUS power to outrun some of those superior cars. Or, you need to run a race 1000 times to get it absolutely perfect, because the opponent cars don't make a mistake in the slightest.

GT3 took a long time to fight your way up to the race cars, but at least they kept it at a decent enough pace that you could keep winning and keep upgrading, and it was fun along the way. Maybe you'd run the same race several times or something, but you could definitely keep moving up in the world, getting more cash, souping up your cars, getting better cars, etc. But, in GT4, you're better off trying to spend your time building a REAL car than to build up your GT4 car, it will take JUST AS MUCH TIME!!!

How is the game itself?? Well, the game play is pretty good. The graphics are good. The control is very nice. But, contrary to Rex's comments about the improvement in the physics modeling of this game (ha, yeah, like he'd really know about the physics modeling after an hour of playing a 2-year pre-release version, unless he had something to do with development), my opinion is that the physics isn't that much better. Better in some ways, worse in others. For example, when an opponent car turns into the side of your car, believe me, your car is definitely pushed WAY off track, you can do nothing to stop it. But, if you try to do the same to opponent cars, they don't budge. You may as well try to ram into a semi truck with a motorcycle. The truck keeps its line, the motorcycle gets squashed. This game is pretty much like that. Opponent cars can push you around like a rag doll, but don't even bother trying to push them off track, because all you end up doing is falling back, while the opponent just keeps on going. This is hardly an "improvement" in the physics modeling. Like I said, the physics in GT4 is better in some ways than GT3, worse in others. But, anyway, yeah, I am NOT giving this game only one star because of the game play. I have no complaints about game play. I complain because this game is NOT FUN.

The menus on GT4 are downright horrible. You can't find your way around to finding the right races without getting a PhD in Gran Turismology. You have to figure your way through about 15 different places to soup up your cars... some of those places will soup up certain model cars, some won't. And, there are a ton of different tracks to race... scattered all over the place... however, where are the ones you need to race to get cash prizes, and where are the ones that are just races that don't get you anywhere in progressing through the game?? Well, once again, study up on your Gran Turismology, and get the secret decoder ring, and perhaps you'll figure it out.

The music is bad.

As for the race tracks, some are really good, but there are a fair share of HORRIBLE tracks, too.

But, like I emphasized above, the real thing that makes this game such a big zero in my book is that these developers definitely missed the mark in just plain old making this game FUN. This is the most important factor in a video game... make it FUN. But, they really really really really screwed up. They spent SO MUCH time trying to make this game complex, cramming a bunch of useless nonsense in there, they forgot to make it FUN....!!! They made some nice advancements, they have some fun cars in there (if you can stand 100000000 boring races before you finally get to drive any of them), they have nice graphics, it's visually great, the driving is pretty good.... But, none of that, NONE OF THAT, ***NONE*** ***OF*** ***THAT*** is enough to make this game fun enough to bear through 200+ races in crappy old underpowered used pieces of junk that can't get out of their own way, before FINALLY working your way up to a new car... and another 200+ races before you can really have any kind of selection of fun cars. You'll be LONG LONG LONG LONG LONG LONG bored to tears before ever getting to play anything fun in this game. I played GT3 to its completion three times, and fighting through to the fun cars in that game was bad enough (but at least it was doable, and you could make progress and have fun along the way). Doing that in GT4 is downright painful. Forget it, I've given up. I thought that after fighting my way to a few fun cars, the game would really take off from there, and all of the boring races would be behind me..... WRONG. Nope, you're ALWAYS broke, you're ALWAYS underpowered, and you're ALWAYS losing until you go back and race old tracks a ton of times to build up a few pennies to add a turbo to your car before you have the remotest chance to advance.

They TOTALLY missed the mark in the fun department in this game. A total shame, because it has so much potential. The bottom line is that this IS a good game, or at least it COULD HAVE BEEN. The racing is pretty good, there are a lot of cars to choose from, the graphics are good, some of the tracks are downright great. But, why can't I give this game more than 1 star??? Because this game is not FUN!!! They've made it toooo difficult. This makes a really good rental game, because you can just play it for a week or so, and enjoy the positive aspects of the game. But, if you're like me, and you like to buy games (not rent), because you really want to enjoy a game for more than a week, forget it, you'll *never* enjoy this game. You will be bored beyond belief. I know some people will think that I must be bad at these games, and that's the reason I can't get anywhere, or that I simply don't have patience. But, this is not true. I'm usually very good at games, and I usually play them to completion. Just read a few of the reviews by some of the other folks to confirm what I'm saying. This game is VERY long, VERY difficult, and you will be VERY frustrated trying to get anywhere in this game... even if you do get a head start by transferring from GT3 first.

Don't buy this game, and my opinion is that you shouldn't be fooled by Rex. Read his review, and you decide whether you think this guy is a developer of this very game, that came to Amazon to write a review (before its release) to pump up sales of his own product... or whether you find that it's believable that he knows THAT much about a game that he theoretically only played for an hour or two, a couple of YEARS before its release. Yeah, right. Listen to reviews that make SENSE. Don't listen to such nonsense from someone who wrote a review before its release, and theoretically never even played the released version of the game.

Uuuugh. Rent this one... don't buy it.

Where are all the improvements over GT3???

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 12 / 30
Date: February 24, 2005
Author: Amazon User

I was so looking forward to this game and now that I finally got to play it, it is a HUGE disapointment. Sure there are some minor improvements over GT3, but they certainly aren't worthy of all the development time that went into this game.
Those minor improvments are: better graphics, improved physics engine (so they claim), more race tracks, slightly better car selection (a few more American cars now, but still none of the top racing brands, and way too many obscure Japanese cars that no body cares to use anyway. Sure there are 600+ cars but most of them are just cheap filler, like 20 versions of the same car). Most of the added features are just cheap gimmicks, like taking pictures of your cars; who cares???
The biggest thing that's missing is ONLINE PLAY!!! What happened? They promised online play for GT4 and it's not here! With out this major feature there really isn't much reason to buy this game! Now we'll all just have to wait and hope that Forza Motorsport for XBox (which will have online play) will be able to deliver on what GT4 didn't!!
Save yourself $30 hard earned dollars and spend $20 on GT3 instead, and if you already own GT3, don't waste $50 on this minor update.

WORST GAME EVER!

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 2 / 22
Date: July 26, 2005
Author: Amazon User

This game is terrible! Go buy Burnout 3 or NFS Underground 2, they are MUCH better games and much cheaper. I've played many bad games before, but this is the worst!!! :K

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