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Ghost Recon 2

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 1 / 1
Date: February 15, 2008
Author: Amazon User

This is a great game if you like tactical shooters, the graphics are great and the game overall is really visually inviting. The storyline is not much to think about but I won't ruin it for you, let me just say don't expect any surprises. The next problem is the AI is really a problem, your team sometimes they just sit there and let you do all the work. As for the enemies they will run and advance towards you but when you shoot them they don't even act like their shot, they just sort of lay down. Another part I want to point out that I found disappointing, the multiplayer is great live but splitscreen they toned it down from what it used to be in originals. Splitscreen with just two people doesn't allow you to pick a whole ghost team but puts you solo against your oponent. Your not going 4 ghost against 4 ghost but more of a oo7 type style of splitscreen. But there is co-op also. One last thing, it also lets you go back through the missions and play lone wolf with high tech gear and recon and other different ways to take to the fight of your choosing. However if you mind the few quirks ubisoft has left and you like the original series, this game might be for you. I liked the game overall, it presents challenges. Then again I still think if I knew what this game was really like I wouldn't have bought it. If

Not worth it. This is not Ghost Recon

2 Rating: 2, Useful: 0 / 1
Date: March 08, 2007
Author: Amazon User

I bought this game on the strength of the Original and Island Thunder. I want my money back. It's just doesn't meet muster. It cannot be compared to Ghost Recon.

AI is lame, no control of fire teams or switching between team members. What is the deal with the Single character mission?

I'll be trading this one in.

Good game, some excellent additions and improvements

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 0 / 0
Date: March 03, 2007
Author: Amazon User

The Ghost Recon franchise is prolific and evolving. 2 is a big change over 1 from FPS into FPS/TPS - 3rd person over-the-shoulder. More games should employ the FPS/TPS choice (Elder Scrolls does). Commands are new, interface new, weapons new. The gun with the TV screen is cool. Lone Wolf missions new. Voice acting new. There are some fierce massive firefights in this one over previous Ghost Recon games. The spirit is the same - squad-based military shooter. Great game.

Best military game I've ever seen

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 0 / 1
Date: November 24, 2006
Author: Amazon User

Ghost Recon 2 is a great shooter game that provides hours of fun. Solo and Multiplayer are both very good. There are lots of cool weapons to choose from, like the ultra-accurate M8 sharpshooter, or the camera-equipped M29. Graphics are awesome, I've not noticed any choppiness except in dense forests with lots of trees. Music is decent and the sound is well done. Multiplayer, even local multiplayer is always fun. The solo missions, however, are VERY challenging, probably because you need only take one or two shots before you're dead. Once you get through the missions, though, you can go back and play them as a firefight, a recon, a defend, or a lone wolf (where you get high-tech equipment). This feature gives it great replay value.

I only have a single complaint about this game, friendly AI, especially with the British soldiers, who, although they can be helpful, often walk into your line of fire and get shot, and you fail the mission immediately. Other than that, this is the coolest Xbox game that exists.

Hit, or Miss?

3 Rating: 3, Useful: 0 / 0
Date: May 23, 2006
Author: Amazon User

If you haven't yet played a Ghost Recon game, Ghost Recon 2 will be some good fun. Up-to date graphics, a fresh story and hours of challenging modern combat is what you should be expecting from this title. I was expected a bit more based on my great experiences with the first Ghosts, which entailed a more tactical approach. And this is where the disappointment begins. The game play: I quickly learned that I no longer have control over customizing my team aside from weapon selection. The whole team is assigned automatically. Yuck! Also, the team is smaller and must face more enemies, armored vehicles and helicopters. These things seem to steer this title away from its roots which is good and bad.

There are so many good elements found in the original GR which are missing here, such as being involved in developing the skills of your team mates. Previously you could send 6 into the field and let them gain valuable experience and make them better. Also missing are bonus objectives that, when successfully completed will unlock new team members and weapons. Another nice feature was winning medals for personal kills during a mission. These, and other features, seem to have vanished. All of it was sacrificed and replaced by a lame point score system that has no effect on your team's performance or outcome of the missions. It only serves to let you obtain images, big deal.

You start with an initial objective in each of GR2's missions, further objectives are then added by your HQ during the mission. One of the major flaws in the game is this very thing. You may think that you have completed an objective only to find that you have to backtrack to a previous location because you missed a secondary objective that was added during your mission. After which you may have completed the objective and not even realize it. This aspect of the game needs some improvement to make the game flow better and alleviate some frustration.

Aside from a few irritating things that are likely just a result of personal taste, it's a decent addition to the series.

Stoping N. Korea.

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 0 / 0
Date: May 21, 2006
Author: Amazon User

Imagine this: North Korea is going in to seize Chinese territory after the crazy General blames the Chinese for a great famine that is starting and The Ghost must go in and stop them before major damage happens. Well you don't have to imaging it when you can pick up your copy of ghost Recon 2 for the Xbox.
Ghost Recon 2 is an amazing game that was very well made. First of all, the graphics are great for an Xbox game. The picture is pretty clear and is also well detailed from my point of view. They made the controls very easy to know and learn and understand. The movement of the character is nice and clean for the most part. The only game play issue that I had was that I thought that the game campaign was a little too easy for me. I like challenges in games.
When you play multiplayer, it is very fun. There are some very fun and cool maps like bunkers and query. It is very fun to play with friends only. You will become addicted with the online part of the game. There is one major flaw in the game though. When you are playing Xbox Live ranked games you can earn 5 stars for a rank and then go to sleep and wake up with 3 stars and you had never lost a game. It is very frustrating when you earn your good rank and then you loose for doing nothing. Other than that, the Xbox Live is great. You can play, Sharpshooter, Last Man Standing, Siege and many more. Plus there was an update that went out a while ago with more guns and maps. This is a must check out. I would not recommend renting this game only because it is so good that you should just put up 20 dollars or even 10 for a used copy. This is an amazing game and a great sequel to the ever popular Ghost Recon.

Horrible

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 0 / 3
Date: April 29, 2006
Author: Amazon User

Let's put forward the facts now. I may not know the "true" greatness of Tom Clancy because his only game I like is Chaos Theory. The graphics for Ghost Recon 2 are outstanding. The sound and music also rock. But here comes the bad part. For one thing, I despise this one-shot-kill thng. It makes the game impossible and totally unfun. You have very few weapon selections, and can't pick up the enemies'. Multiplayer is no fun at all. If you give orders to your squad via your Xbox Live headset, they'll usually do the wrong thing. Don't bother with this awful part of the series. Go pick up Summit Strike instead.

Nice Movements - Problems with AI

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 0 / 0
Date: April 24, 2006
Author: Amazon User

Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon 2 involves you and a small squad of soldiers going out and achieving objectives. The problem is that your squad is usually not very smart.

Let's start at the beginning. You're a fairly realistic modern day soldier. When you draw your rifle, you actually take it off your back. You can see the radio antennae, the pistol at your hip, and every other detail of your character. When you get down and crawl along the grond, it really looks like that. You can roll sideways, sneak, and more. This isn't an arcade leaping game. It's meant to have you feel like you really are a soldier in these situations.

The training is set up like a real combat training course, so that you learn your commands while staying in character. You try out a number of weapon types as well as learn how to climb over and under obstacles. Then you move on to your missions, which are the typical kill-the-enemy and save-the-good-guys style of tasks.

Unlike Splinter Cell and other solo-stalking games, in Ghost Recon 2 you are working with a small crew to achieve your objectives. This is fantastic if you're playing LIVE and have a team of skilled friends on your side, working in a well choreographed ballet of death. This works less well when you're playing single player and having to depend on the computer AI teammates to watch your back. Sure, they might watch your back - they could be hiding behind a box, refusing to actually fight or do anything helpful.

You could say that this is a problem with any squad based game, but I really did find a few situations in this particular game that stood out as being quite silly. Maybe another month or so in QA testing would have helped work out those bugs. Certainly the AI knew what it was supposed to be doing most of the time - so it shouldn't have been to hard to remove those remaining glitches.

The movement graphics as mentioned are really quite good. The fact that weapons don't "appear out of nowhere", that crawling and moving and rolling all looks quite smooth and realistic is impressive. That being said, the *detail* in the graphics is still lacking a bit. The ground often looks like it's a single tile repeated over and over again. The trees look very fake. I've seen other games of the same genre that have much better detail, so it's certainly possible. Again, this was a case where waiting another month or two in design to get those extra details added could have really made a difference.

I did enjoy the game - I just felt it wasn't as great as it could have been. It's as if they had a deadline to meet, so whatever state the game was in when that deadline came around, that's what went out. I hope that for the next version they will be willing to take those extra weeks to get it to that higher quality level.

Not that great...didn't really like it :(

3 Rating: 3, Useful: 1 / 1
Date: March 28, 2006
Author: Amazon User

I had such high hopes for this game to be good. Too bad that's not the way it turned out. I'm not sure if it was only me, but I really wanted a game that stayed a "tactical" shooter it seemed very run and gun however. I had been playing Island Thunder like crazy and was So pumped for GR2 to blow me away. It didn't, howver, and I had to wait until GRAW to actually get my "ghost recon" back. I'm getting off track here, sorry. Back to Ghost Recon 2. It just seemed like it wasn't very tactical and was more run and gun. At least in the multiplayer. I never really played the single player, because until GRAW, I didn't really like the single player aspects of a Ghost Recon game (except in GRIT of course).

Presentation
The menus in this game gave me such a hard time. They would freeze, screw up, and they were just difficult to get through in general. Lets just say they drove me NUTS!

Graphics
When the game first came out, I was thrilled with the way the graphics looked. They were so good at the time and they really showed off the power of the Xbox. Aside from Halo 2 and a few others, it was one of the best looking games out in the market.

Sound
I thought that the music and sound effects in this game were very good and set a real mood for the game. Very well done.

Gameplay
As I said, I really didn't play the single player campaign much, so I'm mostly going off the multiplayer gameplay. But, even so, the game just didn't play like previous Ghost Recon games. It wasn't tactical at all and play like a purely run and gun game.

Lasting Appeal
I don't think the single player aspect is what made this game "last." There were extra mulitplayer maps, and, again for people who liked it, the multiplayer aspects is what kept this game going.

Could definitely have been better.

3 Rating: 3, Useful: 0 / 0
Date: February 15, 2006
Author: Amazon User

By now it goes without saying that GR2 bears little resemblance to the original incarnation of the game, or even the console ports of it. It's really less a sequel and more a Rainbow 6: Black Arrow, for Ghost Recon. Which is to say: a game that's acceptably faithful to the original but clearly engineered for consoles rather than the PC.

The core design isn't really the problem with this game as, for the most part, it plays pretty well and still manages to convey an authentic GR experience; even if it does lack some of the finer points. Unfortunately as with Black Arrow, your squadmates are pretty much fixed so there's no element of strategy to the pre-game aside from picking your own loadout. Multiplayer options abound and I think the only thing I found lacking about the off-campaign missions was the inability to run a Firefight with a squad to back you up or to use something besides US weaponry in general. It seems the only place you get to play with the foreign hardware is in the true multiplayer modes.

While I was initially quite disappointed to see how stripped down GR2 ended up being in general, it works, so I can't objectively count that against it. With that aside there ultimately ends up being a good number of other things beneath the surface that serve to hinder overall enjoyment.

If you've played the original GR you can vouch for the fact that your squadmates were often the first to pick out and gun down enemies, more often than not before you even knew they were there. It seems that your new squad of ghosts are a bit on the nearsighted side as they generally end up doing exactly the opposite. Compound this with some occasionally schitzophrenic pathfinding and you have a recipe for annoyance. Teammates who randomly run across your field of fire, take cover behind something that occludes their shot of an enemy, or... just not shooting at them at all. The AI commands are pretty limited and none seem to be especially useful aside from "surpress". Telling your mates to flank often just sends them off wandering in a random direction and "hold" seems to wear off by itself and send your little buddies hurrying off to find where ever you've gone in their absence. As a side note, "hold fire" strikes me as almost entirely useless due to the fact that any element of stealth within the game is all but broken and works on only the most basic of levels.

Your opposition on the other hand seems to have no problem finding cover, falling back and repositioning to get the drop on you. The enemy AI isn't brilliant, but its enough to be challenging without a few of the game's more annoying mechanics backing them up. First of these is the fact that enemies will indeed spawn out of thin air. You think you've cleared the area behind you on the way to an objective? Well, you probably did, but now there is inexplicably a hail of bullets comming from that direction. Now make no mistake, the original GR -did- do things like this on occasion but in GR2 it seems to be much more of a staple, or thorn, to the point that its readilly noticable and becomes expected that you can pretty much never safely turn your back. Somewhat in line with this is the fact that when enemies -do- start crawling out of the woodwork (and I don't mean on missions where they're supposed to) they tend to do so in mass numbers. Even in its stripped down form, GR is still not well suited as a by-the-numbers shooter; especially when you have half-braindead AI backing you up.

The mission design is superficially pretty well-varied but alot of the missions end up boiling down to, "go here and protect this from 100 enemies that are swarming out of the treeline". The new "Defend" mode is built around this idea but there are also a few others which place you in the same position. Some of the maps are more linear than others, though once you take into account the randomly spawn-reinforced opposition you may come to appreciate them more than the wider open ones where you're more or less a sitting duck waiting to be ambushed from an area you just cleared out.

The only real "enhancement" to the game, also exacerbates one of its most annoying quirks. The M29 (and that other one, I can't think of right now) are pretty neat little toys that can make it feel more like you're playing Kill.switch than Ghost Recon 2, but they're not without their downside. Though it seems to be more of an issue when using 3rd person, the problem can also crop up in 1st person as well. Your launched grenades (this does apply to any underslung grenade launcher, its just more problematic with the unique aiming of the IWS rifles) seem to have a really large collision box. This basically means that its really easy to unwittingly grenade yourself in the face when behind cover.

I think that's enough ranting so in summary: GR2 could've ultimately been a solid, if stripped down and somewhat halfhearted "sequel", but there's alot of little things counting against it that could be grounds for a good ammount of frustration.

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