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Great game -could have been special

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 3 / 3
Date: July 03, 2003
Author: Amazon User

There is nothing like drawing your lightsaber in anger to hew stormtroopers and other baddies. Throw in some force powers and nothing beats playing as a Jedi in the Star Wars universe. Nothing except for the pseudo Mario Brothers jumping and maddening puzzles. A number of times throughout the game you'll wonder why the designers mapped the levels the way they did -the puzzles remind you that you are at home playing a PC game, which really undermines and diminishes the joy of fantasy Jedihood. I did enjoy the storyline and the gradual build up of the Force and lightsaber powers, but just as you really start to immerse yourself in the Jedi role, the game winds itself up before you have the chance to really see what you can do. Oh yeah, and there are more puzzles at the end. I don't remember ever seeing much if any puzzles in any of the Star Wars films; it's ridiculous to think that Empire soldiers would have to go through the same silly steps to activate key doors or access storage areas. I would like to comment on the multiplayer aspect of the game, but I haven't played online yet. It's fun against the bots by yourself -I can only imagine how much more enjoyable it must be against human foes! Essentially, this is a great game, but should have made full and better use of the Star Wars license.

The force is strong with this one

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 3 / 3
Date: April 14, 2002
Author: Amazon User

This is a great follow-up to "Jedi Knight," and while I do recommend the game, there are a few caveats I should mention right away.
First, this game is DIFFICULT! I was able to play through Jedi Knight without the need for cheats or walkthroughs, but this is entirely different matter. Without making myself invulnerable, I would have lost patience early on. The problem is simply that the odds are always stacked against you just a little too severely. Unlike Jedi Knight, where the fights were generally manageable, here you will often find yourself entering a room and suddenly being surrounded by imperials. To make matters worse, the AI here is much better than it was in the past, so not only are you facing quantity, you've also got to contend with quality. Which I suppose can be considered both a recommendation and a complaint at the same time. Adding to the difficulty are the jumping puzzles which can soon become infuriating. Kyle has an annoying habit of taking an extra step or two after landing a jump, often causing him to scoot off the other side of that crate you just spent the past five minutes trying to reach. The manual suggests pressing E to "stick the landing," but if I wanted a gymnastics game, I'd be playing that old classic "Summer Games," not "Jedi Outcast."
The puzzles also rely a little too much on trying to find a well-concealed passage, or simply pressing every switch you come across. At one point, I was stumped because the I didn't realize that the next move I had to make was a seemingly impossible leap to a hidden ledge. Such puzzles may extend the playing time, but can also drive you mad.

Fortunately, the game's positive aspects compensate for its short-comings. This is perhaps the game that feels closest to a Star Wars movie. The plot has everything you'd expect from Lucas' franchise-- Great saber battles, a bit of humor, a touch of romance, and lots of exotic locales and space stations. Cameo appearances by Lando (Billy Dee Williams himself does the voice) and Luke (not Mark Hammill, but good enough) certainly help make this game feel like the real thing. But where are Han and Leia?
The light saber here is far superior to how it was implemented in Jedi Knight. There are plenty of moves available, and facing off against a group of dark Jedi with Luke fighting alongside is a thrill any Star Wars fan would love to experience.
Oddly enough, this is one game where I would recommend cheating if you have to. Unless you have a lot of experience with First-Person Shooters, you'll quickly lose patience with this one due to its extreme difficulty. Yet, you'd be shortchanging yourself by not playing it at all. So give it a try, and if you find yourself getting killed too often, feel free to find a cheat code, but whatever you do, play this game through to the end... you won't be sorry.

Stormtroopers still cant aim...

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 3 / 3
Date: May 13, 2002
Author: Amazon User

This is probably the most fun FPS I've ever played. Then I got the Lightsaber, and had a 3rd person game...It was also the most fun 3rd person game i've ever played too.
Story-
The story is good, with enough twists to it to keep it from being completely contrived. The writers came up with enough twists to get you to the locations in the game, such as Bespin.
Control-
The control was ok. The forcepowers were sort of awkward to use, but some tweeking with the scheme fixes this. The lightsaber controls were ok, supposedly allowing you to do some neat moves, but in my experience, all of this went out the door in actual play, I just kept hitting buttons until I killed all my opponents. The ability to run up walls was neat, I didn't know i could actually do it until i was running down a hall and bumped against a wall and did it. It was cool.
Weapons-
I used some of the earlier weapons, but after the lightsaber, there was NO turning back. I couldnt even tell you the secondary features of half the weapons. The force powers are very, very cool. After some practice, you'll be running around pushing hoards of storm troopers down bottomless chasms, taking there weapons from them, and occasionally torturing an isolated Imperial Officers with the choke hold.
Gameplay-
Even on the Jedi difficulty level, this game is moderately difficult, mainly due to some of the impossible hoards of storm troopers you'll be facing.
There are some neat features to offer slight changes of pace in the game, such as the level in which you take control of an AT-ST and decimate ranks of storm troopers.
Slight problems occur with the level design, such as the impossible hole which is to be found on one of the Yavin stages. You'll know what i'm talking about...its some sort of sick joke.
Multiplayer-
I typically don't indulge myself in multiplay, as my slow 56k modem just cant handle it. I did some dabbling with this game, and kind of found it boring. The lightsaber battles werent nearly as interesting as the single player games, and some of the force powers are extremely unbalanced, especially on stages with death holes. Overall the multi play is ok...I'd recommend playing Multiplay before you mess with the single player game, or else you'll be disappointed.

This might be the best game ever

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 5 / 8
Date: April 06, 2002
Author: Amazon User

Of all of the games that I have ever purchased (a lot), JKII might be the best ever. Raven has spent a lot of effort both pre and post release dealing with customer opinion and offering tons of help with customization and hints.
1. The bottom line: The light-saber duels are the best. Forget the other weapons (although they are cool too). My fiance actually went out and purchased another copy just so that we could team match against each other, and she doesn't even really like 1st person shooters! Watching on spectator mode with a dozen jedi dueling makes the wait for Episode II less stressful.
2. Game play is pretty smooth, but the cutscenes should have been actual films, like with Dark Forces II, Jedi Knight.
3. My computer had some problems initially, but I boosted my RAM past 300 megs and it's much better now. Even on better video settings it runs well.
4. Kyle should look more like the Kyle from Dark Forces. He looks a little too 70's.
5. A reation to those that complain about it not working on their computers, GET A NEW MACHINE! A PENTIUM I OR II JUST WON'T CUT IT ANY MORE!!!

awesome, wonderful -- and with a light saber too!!!

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 6 / 11
Date: December 05, 2002
Author: Amazon User

Dark Forces was my favorite first-person shooter (FPS) for a long time. I still play it occasionally, and was upset about LucasArts not porting the first Jedi Knight game to Mac. My bitterness is at an end however, having longed for, rushed-to-buy and now completed Jedi Knight II -- a terrific game with loads of great weapons and Force powers. I haven't played the multiplayer game yet, but here is my evaluation of single player mode:

Good things: (1) First and foremost, as with Dark Forces, there is an actual STORY with mission objectives that tie in to a larger purpose. Unlike most FPS's, where you just kill everything in sight and push whatever buttons present themselves, there is a plot here that makes sense. (2) The settings are terrific -- 24 levels that take place on ships, planets, city streets, the Jedi Academy, swamps and more -- filled with lovely graphics and extraordinary detail. (3) Humor. One reason I can't wait to play again is that I was so anxious to get through the game the first time that I sometimes didn't wait to hear the often funny conversations between Storm Troopers or their dressing down by officers. (4) The weapons and tools are great, with primary and secondary functions that have you changing tactics just for the joy of trying different modes of attack. Seeker drones and assault sentries are fun to use, but they are nothing compared to the great Force powers, which have three levels of power that are upped as you make progress through the levels -- Force Push, Pull, Grip, Lightning, Speed and Mind Trick are a blast to use, and add dimension to your strategy. The light sabre is great fun and you can become as adept as you want to with the magnificent number of moves and saber styles available. (5) Many of the same bad guys as in Dark Forces, but in better graphics and with more challenging moves. Great new villains include the camouflaged Swamp Troopers and Admiral Fyyar. (6) The ability to choose between first- or third-person perspective is awesome. (7) The game is very stable. Running on a PowerMac G4, I never had one crash. (8) The cut scenes added dimension and moved the story along, and they integrated seamlessly with gameplay. (9) John Williams music makes you feel like you're in the Star Wars universe, and sounds in general are used to good effect. (10) Billy Dee Williams voicing Lando Calrissian! (11) Enemy death throes.

Bad things: (1) Unlike Dark Forces, there is no map function, and I found I really missed that. Levels are sometimes HUGE, and I'd have liked to have had some reference. (2) The secret areas were not very exciting, usually just containing a few supplies. (3) Sometimes voices were garbled or masked by the music and there was no way to hear what Kyle was muttering to himself or repeat what message had come over an intercom, for example. Unlike cutscene dialogues they were not subtitled. (4) The climactic battle with Evil Lord Dessan was less interesting than an earlier encounter with Fyyar. (5) I found it was difficult to maneuver when I used Force Speed.

But these are minor quibbles. The game is wonderful. I'm ecstatic that it was ported to Macintosh. I've made it through one time and look forward to playing it again. And again .... and again ....

I almost sold that sucker!

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 7 / 15
Date: September 11, 2005
Author: Amazon User

I nearly sold this game two weeks after I bought it. I was ready to unload it on the verry first person who would give me twenty bucks. After awhile of not getting any bites I tried once again to get past that second level without getting BORED OUT OF MY MIND! Turns out I just overlooked a switch... or something. After that, it got better... MUCH BETTER! What really got me was that the game is called JEDI OUTCAST, and the weapon you start out using (and keep using) is the elegant... BLASTER PISTOL!!!
For those of you who are thinking of buying it (or have allready bought it) I have a little advice: If you are not patient don't buy it. Instead buy Jedi Academy. If you are patient, buy them both! Just hang in there it gets better!

Coolest game ever played

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 3 / 4
Date: December 12, 2002
Author: Amazon User

Two worsd: Light Saber.
It slices and it dices. It blocks laser-fire. Once you've learned some combinations, clearing a room of 10 simultaneously firing Storm Troopers and a Reborn Jedi becomes ever-so-effortless and ever-so-gratifying. You swing, you twirl, you jump, you twirl, and they're all dead.

The levels are breathtaking, both in detail and in scope. The graphics overall are incredible: pixle-shading and dynamic lighting produce realistic shadows, reflections, and beautiful streaking light-sabers. The Yavin swamp, near the end of the game, was truely inspired: it's dead on what I would expect from a Star Wars swamp, and the tiny drops of rain continuously hit your saber and evaporate into a tiny swirl of vapor.

Plus, once you've beaten it on every difficulty setting, you can Mod it (thanks to the very extensive online community of enthusiasts) to change the gameplay, like giving Kyle a lightsaber and force mastery from the very beginning of the game, or making him look like Luke and the main boss look like and sound like Vader. Or substituting all the characters for Anakin, Padme, Obiwan, and Qui-Gon from Episodes 1 and 2. Or you add on a custom level with a custom objective. Or you can change your saber hilt. Muliplayer is great whether you are online or facing Bots- I recommend downloading a Yoda skin and a Mod to make him the correct height -- he's positively lethal. Multiplayer is easily the coolest experience you've ever had online. Some of these guys are so good with the saber that it'll make your head spin (on the floor, by your feet, if you're playing with the Realistic Combat code activated). I'd love to see an accomplished Quake 3 player jump into a saber-wielding multiplayer game complete with force powers, only to find all of his rockets and laser shots reflected back on himself.

Trust me, with the patience to learn this game, it'll rock your world.

Just.... Omg...

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 3 / 4
Date: May 06, 2003
Author: Amazon User

This game has UNBELIEVABLE graphics. The duel light saber mode is NICE. I got so sick of noobs coming in and killing my enemies and this prevents it! The multiplayer OWNS with ctf, team ffa, ffa, duel, and jedimaster. Team ffa is my favorite... usually have one person grip while i lunge and kill the guy... ANYWAYS this game gets a 112983018923/112983018923 for me, and its very addicting in a good way... every day you're hooked! I played it once for 8 hours straight on a saturday... WITHOUT getting up... its just so much fun... but of course i have no life! I felt like i was atrophic and my legs were gonna fall off.... just needed a little break. BUT this game is the best star wars multi out there so far.

Pretty cool

3 Rating: 3, Useful: 3 / 4
Date: November 09, 2003
Author: Amazon User

It's a great game and all. You can also play the bonus games when you beat the missions. The problom is certain levels are realy hard to beat so after that there's nothing really to do. I mean you could still try and beat the game except those particular levels take miracles to pass. It is a very cool role playing game for several reasons. It has good graphics and a wide variety of enemies and weapons. On one of the last levels you even command a walker and kick some stormtrooper ... ! It's a hard call on buying it. If you buy it, oh sure you may enjoy it for weeks or even months. But once you get stuck and get bored with the bonus stuff (which you may not get bored with)that's like fifty bucks down the drain. Or you might get the game down early or you just played the other games and get past the tough levals. It totally depends on your skills as a gamer and whether or not you will get bored with it. It's your decision. My advice is be wise in your purchase and be absolutely sure you want it.

P.S. if you become a crazed fan of this game for some far off reason look for the two other Star Wars games.

The unbelivers are on the Dark Side!

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 4 / 7
Date: March 31, 2002
Author: Amazon User

Don't listen to them! They're mad! It's the best game ever MADE! I have played many games and this is the BEST!... Just because some stupid magazine didn't like it, now everybodys against it! (actually not everybody, because there can onlybe two Sith at once, the rest of you unbelievers are just wimpy Dark Jedi) The Force powers are so awesome, the graphics are the most advanced yet, the moves (flips, rolls, wallwalking etc.) are amazing, the lightsaber combat is almost too real (thats not a bad thing, by the way, and you can actually THROW your lightsaber like a boomerang to kill your enemies) the AI is the best yet! There many other good things about the game but I can't type all day.

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