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Good Vs. Evil Play Both for One Price

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 8 / 8
Date: June 06, 2007
Author: Amazon User

The submitter below me is wrong, you only need to pay a single subscription fee to play both City of Heroes and City of Villains, all you need to do is set up your account and add the code for the second game to the current game once you've set up the first. Two awesome games, one 15 dollar subscription fee. NCSoft support is awesome for helping customers sort this out.

I'm not really a fan of MMOs but I have to say I've been continually impressed with the City of franchise providing innovative and fun play, interesting character archetypes, and probably the best character builder in any game. I'm also impressed with their continued dedication to free game updates instead of paid box updates for new content.

With the addition of Inventions in April, 2007 you really begin to feel like a super hero or a devious villain, able to craft new enhancements to make your powers more robust and awesome. Veterans awards also make me feel appreciated as a customer for my continued play of the game by rewarding me a new costume piece, or item for every 3 months of play. (I'm at 18 now ^_^).

If you're looking for a fun game, low on gore violence (I consider it to be PG-13), that teaches good lessons for kids (especially in city of heroes), and lets you play out a childhood dream of being a good guy or a bad guy, this is definitely it.

best Superhero game (and MMO) i've played

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 6 / 7
Date: May 29, 2007
Author: Amazon User

this box contains both of Cryptic Studios award winning titles, City of Heroes and City of Villians. allthough they are essentially counterparts of each other, you needed to buy each game seperatly, as well as pay a seperate subscription fee for them. now with this Good VS Evil pack both games are installed and one subscription fee of 15 dollars a month is payed for both games

i had my doubts but once i got the game going i was shocked by how good it was, and how dull and boring it made my previous time in World of Warcraft seem

1: I am Myself and Noones gonna tell me otherwise!
the character creation tools in this game is a toy/game in on itself. not only is it the best i've ever seen in an MMO, the only games that i can think of that does better is the Elder Scrolls series. you start off by choosing Heroes or Villians, and than 5 class options. each class offers different powers and roles, and there are unique ones that the other faction doesnt have, like a Mastermind for villians who can summon ninjas, mercenaries, or robots. from there you pick one of 5 options from where your character gets their powers from : Magic, Science, Technology, Mutation, or Natural. this adds for a little bit of extra Role-playing but it also gives an extra Super-Power. you than pick a Major and Minor Superpowers pool, which adds more uniqueness in that two players of the same class will likely have very different superpowers. after that you can pick Male/Female/Huge body forms, and than shift the shape and proportions of the character. after that is done, you give the character thier "tights" though there are more options than i care to count. wanna make a superhero-businessman? go for it. how about a purple-alien black belt-military commando? no sweat. as you increase in level other options open up, such as capes at level 20.

2.Welcome to Paragon.
the areas in Pargon City (Heroes) and the ROgue Isles (Villians) are seperated into clearly zoned areas, and when you change from zone to zone there is a minor loading moment. this is both a plus and a minus in that one the lag is allmost nill (thats the good thing), but if you have to go back and forth from area to area, it can get really irritating. Missions are done in small instanced areas, and scales depending on the ammount of people in your group. i aprecciate this alot becausee it takes you out of the overall enviornment and other players cannot disturb you.

3.have i been here before?
one thing that i did notice, and the only thing that i can say that bad about this game, is that the environments within the game can get very repitive, especially when on the mission maps, but considering that this is supposed to be a close-knit urban city (or a prison-island if your a villian), that bears some realism that much of the areas look like one another

4. look at me!!
one of the things about the game that i really enjoyed was the Badge system. when you make certain achievements, like you reach a certian level or kill a certain ammount of enemies of a certain allegiance, it gives you a badge, which can also be used as a Title under your characters title. it adds some personalization to be sure, but for the elitists among us it also adds bragging rights.

there is much more to go over the game, but all in all the game is a very good buy. the first month is free, so what do you have to lose? also, if you enjoy it and you want some friends to join in, there are two free 14 day trials to give out.

2nd go around.

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 3 / 3
Date: June 19, 2007
Author: Amazon User

I originally purchased this game and started playing this game during beta, in 2004. through the first year in 2005. Due to Financial budget, plus school and work, I had to stop. At first i didn't really miss it. Only the past few months or so. After the Great Character customization in Obivion. Playing on XBL, I really missed the world of Paragon. So with my situation improved. i repurchased the dualpack. The only difference now instead of playing on a desktop, i am playing on a laptop. With the finger pad in the middle. its a complete change to my trackball. Still the game is fun. the grouping is great. and I am pleasantly surprised at the additions, bases. Recipes, Salvages, the Entire COV is great. I wish both COV and COH were combined. Maybe they are? But still great game.
I did try to use my 360 controller. but found a) the right analog stick inoperable, and after downloading a program to remap. I prefered keyboard and mouse, so now i picked up a trackball, as my old pc and trackball are packed away. Still i would prefer it on a pc. But traveling to COH/COV on my laptop is enjoyable. and definatly do not regret rebuying the game. I even recreated my same hero, with additions to and origin story to the 2 yr hiatus. from 2005 to 2007...
See you all in Paragon

City of Heroes is a great buy!!

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 3 / 3
Date: January 28, 2008
Author: Amazon User

I received the City of Heroes/City of Villains as a gift from some friends so that I could play with them. Unlike most peoples reviews I want to let you know what the game offers you, so you can then decide if you want to play it. I have never played any type of role playing/mmo over the computer before, but I LOVE this game. I have been playing now for 3 months and yes it is different from any other game out there, so it does take a few days/weeks to get used to all the commands and different styles of playing. The best part of this game is that it is PG-13, yes there is violence, but no gore or meanness, it is just good versus bad, so all my friends now play, and so do our kids (over 13 that is). The bad guys are very fictional, (computer animated for CoH), some include: zombies, nazi's, aliens, robots, and drug-dealing gang-members. The City of Heroes is fun, entertaining, and interactive. It gives you and your friends/family the ability to play together through teams and "super groups", it teaches the value of a team play and good strategies, but you can also play completely on your own or in PUGs.
The downside to the game is you pay every month, but it is simply [...], and you don't have to pay for updates! The good side of a month to month game is that when you don't have time to play, you just don't pay that month, there is no contracts or pressure to continuing play. Another possible downside, depending on your personal schedule, is the amount of time needed to get anywhere in the game. You need to gain experience and influence (money in the game) and you do this by spending hours playing: doing missions, task-forces, coalitions, raids, gathering badges, selling and buying enhancements, salvage, recipes, etc. But, this game will never bore you. There is lots of different zones, radio missions, contact missions, special zone missions, and tons of "temporary powers". There is two hero vs. villain zones and a free-for-all PvP zone. There are alien invasions and "story arcs" in which have special bad guys, like elite bosses and arch-villains. Super Groups have a Super Base's that you collectively create and use. The best of all, is you can create and play so many different types of heroes or villains! There are 5 basic types, but there is a near endless possibilities for primary/secondary/pool power combinations and you get new choices for powers, called epic powers, once your character reaches a high enough level. You can have 12 different characters on the same server and you get to make a whole new type of character, warshade/peacebringer, once you get one of your characters to level 50.
The veteran rewards, temporary powers, free respect's, free costume changes, and the rewards for completing stories are wonderful bonuses. NCSoft has great customer relations and there is tutorials through out the game to help you learn. There are also sites that help great deal as well, paragonwiki.com and youtube.com both have good information and videos. With the amount of information out there about the game, you should know whether or not you will like this game, however, I personally think the good vs. evil package can not be beat. Two games for the price of one, with a free month and only [...] a month to play both games. I hope you enjoy!

Fun MMO for any type of Online Gamer

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 3 / 3
Date: January 21, 2008
Author: Amazon User

COH/COV is just a simple fun MMO. It is not complicated, there isnt a ton of things you need to learn to play effectively.
Many players that were around for the start of City of Heroes will say how City of Villains is horrible and how it ruined this and that. Remember, that is their opinion. I too played CoH before CoV but for me, it just added more to do. It added PvP but you are not forced to PvP...you can avoid it all together. You arent forced to team, but you will have more fun and level faster. It has one of the best character look customization of any games out there. There are plenty of classes to satisfy people that love alts. There is no "Ninja looting" all loot is random and appears on your character instantly, all money is split up. Most missions you do are instanced. They have added a bit of Raid type events so that large groups can do things together.

Overall - it is a great casual game...one that you can pick up and have fun with a few months between other games you may play. It probably won't suck you in and hold you for years at a time...but you will probably come back to it a few times. Great to play with your children too if you have a gaming family. One monthly subscription lets you play on either side or both!

My Experience With Dial-Up

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 3 / 4
Date: September 05, 2007
Author: Amazon User

First, just let me say that I'm playing this game just fine with my Dial-Up ISP, and I'm having tons of fun with it. But if you are contemplating buying this game and you have Dial-Up, you should be prepared for a few things: First, you are in for a MASSIVE MOTHER of a Download!! It took me 4 DAYS to download all of this stuff (and I'm not including the Manuel here, that was seperate). One reviewer suggested starting before leaving for work, and let it download while you're there. Well, I did that for a day and a half and I still wasn't done. I stopped the download, but found that I could pick up where I left off, so I spent the next few days downloading the game while I was home and did other things on the computer while it did its thing in the background (my computer seemed OK with this, but it did seem a bit,...um,...'dizzy' for awhile after that first day and a half). The download speed varied considerably from start to finish.

Secondly, there are a few smaller downloads after that first HUGE one, but they go considerably quicker.

Thirdly, I find that I frequently lose connection to the 'Mapserver' when playing the game, which pauses all the action. Sometimes it reconnects itself, but after a few times per session, it'll throw you out of the game entirely. When this happens, you'll need to reconnect with your ISP, then reconnect to the game. I'm guessing that this is because of the slow Dial-Up. If you play in 'safe mode' you'll be fine and never have this problem, but you'll take a decent sized hit to the graphics in this mode.

If you are thinking of buying this game (I have the Coh/CoV 'all in one'), I suggest downloading the Manuel now (it's free from the CoH Website), then buy the game. This way you can learn how to play so you're ready to go when it (finally) all gets there.

City of Fun/City of nofun

3 Rating: 3, Useful: 1 / 1
Date: March 26, 2008
Author: Amazon User

Ok heres the deal. If you like comic books and comic book super heroes then you will probably like this game....for a while. The character creation is unmatched by any game I have ever seen. Every person I know that plays it and many that have never actually played the game enjoyed the creation process that often can take several hours out of your day. There are thousands of possibilities in creating your super heroes look which is exciting but daunting.

As for game play...I started playing CoH years ago because I wanted to fly. Its that simple. I loved the idea of going flying over the top of the city, swooping down, beating up bad guys and flying away again.

This is still the main reason I play. I love to fly.

Graphics wise, it is not bad, its not too tough on computers, its got some fun factor to it for the first 20 levels. After 20 levels it seems to become very repetative to the point of boredom. You will get tired of the same city zones and defeating the same types of villians and then you get a new city and its fun for 3-4 levels and then it becomes boring again and then you get to a new city and its great.

The story archs are often long drawn out reads that mean nothing.

In my opinion there is no greater fun than flying, except when an alien invasion occurs and you and 50 other heroes from around the world that you do not know are in the streets defending the city. It is an awesome battle and a really neat scene.

Grouping is easy, no matter which of my 20 characters I play I always have group invites.

The "missions" you do are ok.

The zones/dungeons you do your missions in are cool until you have done it them the millionth time.

Overall I reccomend it.

Falls Short

2 Rating: 2, Useful: 1 / 15
Date: August 31, 2007
Author: Amazon User

Well......have you ever seen a preview for a movie that has an extremely good plot and you can't wait to see it. You finally see it and the director falls short of delivering what could have been the best movie you have ever seen. You want to like it, but just when you are about to, it falls short. That describes this game. The premise is fantastic but is basically a 3D version of Mario Brothers. It is very linear/scripted, you can't interact with your environments and it is lacking any real appeal other than the idea of having a super hero character. If the environments were more "Grand Theft Auto" this game would have hit a home run. If it was free online play it might be a good way to waste a couple of hours but @ $15 a month, it's not worth it.

User Neutral

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 0 / 3
Date: June 07, 2007
Author: Amazon User

The prospect of this game enticed me the moment I heard about it, but I had jumped on the World of Warcraft train by the time I was even interested in picking it up, and I put it off for a good long while. Besides - City of Heroes sounded fun, but why be a pompous good guy?

City of Villains was what I was waiting for.

So, having picked it up and played around, I've come to find that the game is... fun, but not very deep. The character creation is fun, and the cities are neat, too, but the UI is very cumbersome and difficult for me to adjust to.

As a gamer on a laptop, I don't like having to reassign hotkeys to almost every inch of my keyboard just to be able to function. The chat features are still very confusing for me, and I still prefer to talk to people I know in-game through out-of-game measures, be it IM or phone or something else.

In short, it's entertaining, but you do need a group for a lot of things, and without being able to effectively talk to people near you, and with a lack of a lot of brains to really communicate with, it falls short of the mark of awesome that it could be.

I've Loved Every Minute of This Game!

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 0 / 0
Date: November 16, 2007
Author: Amazon User

I originally bought City of Heroes about 3 years ago. I have played off and on as my financial circumstances have allowed, but I have loved every minute I have spent playing this game.

My favorite feature of this game is the character design. There are so many options that you can truly make your character your own. To make a great thing even better, the game developers are currently working on making the characters even more customizable. You choose from male, female, and large male, you choose your archetype and origin (mutant, technology, science, magic, etc) and then you choose your power set. Next you choose your colors and design your character from head to foot. The possibilities are virtually endless.

I recently got a laptop computer and have loved playing on it just as much as I did playing on my old PC which I sold some time ago.

City of Villians is like discovering City of Heroes all over again. One thing that I have really enjoyed about CoV is how it has added cutscenes to various missions. This makes it seem like you are that much more involved in the game. My only wish is that they could do the same for the CoH missions.

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