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Oldies but goodies

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 0 / 1
Date: September 29, 2006
Author: Amazon User

While the individual games are great, putting JK2, JK & the original DF together in a single bundle doesn't maximize your gaming experience. But first, a summary:

The games are part of a series of "First Person" games that came to a conclusion with "Jedi Knight 3: Jedi Academy" which isn't part of this bundle. All three games represent the same basic idea with different forms of execution and different degrees of sophistication which hint at the years that separate each one.

In DF, you are Kyle Katarn - a mercenary who occasionally works for the rebellion, but never with it. You track down various clues of a new Imperial weapon, "The Dark Trooper". Your search will take you from industrial planets to remote ice-bound fortresses; from the floating city of "Nar Shadaa" to the Imperial Capitol of Coruscant; from the private yacht of Jabba the Hutt to an Imperial star destroyer. Graphics and gameplay are crude - reflecting the state of 1994: graphics don't hint at distances as well as later games, and simple movement becomes unnecessarily clunky, such that simple things like jumping from one platform to another will send you into cheat mode. The sound is definitely circa 1994 - though the effects are okay, the music is annoying MIDI. Head movements are similarly clunky - you can turn your head or incline it, but not with the same controls. You'll soon feel less like you're playing a person than driving a car (many players complained of feeling car-sick, but sticking with the game nonetheless). The story is actually interesting, but it's painfully dated - especially when paired with the newer games.

Jedi Knight stands the test of time better, being a massive leap over DF. You've got a game engine that accurately represents distances and perspectives, more intuitive movement controls and much better sound. Weapons sound nastier, and John Williams's score beautifully punctuates every scene. The story flows like a movie - adding up to an immersive experience that easily stands the test of time. Inventively, the game incorporates cheats as "Jedi Powers", and even throws in usable lightsabres. As Kyle Katarn, you hunt down an evil Jedi warlord named Jerec - the man who killed Kyle's father (and no, Jerec isn't Kyle's father). Learning that Jerec (who leads a cult of other evil Jedi, and hordes of stormtroopers) is himself searching for a mysterious Jedi burial ground oozing with the force-power of thousands of Jedi, Kyle's mission changes from one of vengeance to the salvation of the galaxy. Though you have a lightsaber, there are few actual battles here, and I found them the weakest part of the game. The graphics engine isn't up to modeling the many graceful and lethal moves of the duels of the movies, and I'd be lying if I said that the engine wasn't dated. Other forms of battle, problem solving and level navigation more than make up for that. One problem though - LA released an expansion of JK called "Mysteries of the Sith" - not quite as good as JK, it's still an unmissable experience, and you should hunt it down either separately or find a version of JK that has it included.

"Outcast" is probably the game that will occupy most of your time - it's easily the hardest one in terms of enemy AI, counterintuitive problem solving, number of enemy Jedis and overall length. Compared to the older JK, there were many instances where I just had to re-play the same moment over and over again. In Outcast, you are again Kyle Katarn. The empire having been defeated, has been reduced to pockets of resistance called "The Remnants". Working for the Republic, you regularly infiltrate Remnant strongholds - but in one you learn of a plot involving Remnant forces and an army of evil Jedis called "Reborn". Your mission will take you from a volcanic world used as a prison colony/slave-labor camp to the stratospheric avenues of Bespin's Cloud City; from Luke Skywalker's Jedi Academy on Yavin 4 (last seen as the hidden rebel base in "Star Wars") to a remnant battlecruiser. The game uses the same graphics engine as the newer "Jedi Academy", but is much more challenging than that game - with longer levels and probably more of them. At the same rate, it took me about 4 times as long to polish off Outcast as it did Academy.

PICK UP YOUR VISUAL SCANNING: Outcast is easily the most hardware-intense of the three games, though I ran it smoothly on my old P4 2ghz, 512mb PC. The game IS choosy when it comes to graphics cards - it wouldn't run until I swapped my old Savage card for a GeForce3 (I had no such problems running "Voyager: Elite Force" even though the two games have the same graphics engine) so check the LA website before you buy. I had no XP compatibility issues for JK - again a worthy game even as it nears its 10th birthday.

Fun game, too easy

3 Rating: 3, Useful: 0 / 0
Date: July 01, 2004
Author: Amazon User

Dont get me wrong, this was a pretty fun game and the story was decent. Graphics were good and enjoyable...

The game would deem a challenge if it weren't for force powers. I mean, the game was more of a challenge pre-lighsaber. Granted it was just the first few levels so it couldn't be anything too hardcore. If the game was restricted like the first few levels, it would have deems difficult, but it isn't now is it?

The game becomes tedious and boring right about then. Force Speed + Lightsaber = Everyone Dies....At the offset of an engagement, activate force speed and you whip around too fast for anyone to kill you. So every bad guy you come across, you activate that and run at them causing their demise. Not to mention the force choke off high place ;-)

overall the game was fun, but it loses a lot of points because it gets too easy with the force speed followed by lightsaber attack...

good, but a Litlle challenging:

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 0 / 0
Date: March 31, 2004
Author: Amazon User

Please, be warned, before you read my review that my views are not usually looked upon as the popular choice, but hey I speak my mind.

Firstly, they don't just drop you off a cliff, so to speak, like in DFII, and they do allow for you to get used to the controls before real combat. The levels are intricate and innovative, whereas the game is long (unless you use cheat codes, it is the shortened to around 6 hours.) Also, unlike in DFII, the game gets interesting from the start. You have to use strategy throughout the game, instead of just going: SHOOT EM' UP SHOOT EM' UP!!!

Also, the weapons get unique. the Tenloss DX/R disruptor Sniper rifle is a favorite of mine, as well as the Destructive Elctromagnetic Pulse Weapon: Type 2 (DEMP 2). also, the lightsaber is much more realistic in this than DFII. For example, you can chop off limbs in both games, but you can only chop at the shoulder in DFII, where in JKII, you can chop of the hand, the forearm, even the head off. The seeking missle option on the Merr-Sonn PMX portable missle launcher is quite extraordinary. Det. packs are much an asset as well.

The NPC's are extremely intelligent in JKII. they can see you firing and run away. Also, they will fire at spots you can't deflect easily.

The force is quite interesting, allowing that you are a Dark and Light jedi at the same time, with powers such as grip, lightning, heal, and protect. Grip is cool because you can move your enemy around, dropping them off cliffs or using them as shields. The lightsaber throw is quite cool.

Allowing that you are hardcore enough to learn the lightsaber moves by heart, the duels are interesting. I prefer the "death from above" combo in medium style. you do a flip wityh your lightsaber making a horizontal slash while inverted. This is a hard move to time, but causes instant death to anyone who it hits.

THE PRECEDING WAS A REVIEW OF JKII ONLY!!!

Lucas puts out a real winner

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 0 / 1
Date: December 07, 2002
Author: Amazon User

What can I say, I was not totally sure I would like this first person shooter/Third person when with lightsaber. Im sure now.
The game is well worth it! Many hours of fun!
A TRUE WINNER!!!

Game of the year

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 0 / 4
Date: November 18, 2002
Author: Amazon User

This is a great deal if I were you I'd play the in order it makes sense that way (did I spell That right oh well hey i'm 11 but I play alot of video games sure you adults listen to other adults still get it and if you don't you missed out on a great deal later

This is a great game; not a waste of your time at all.

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 0 / 0
Date: August 15, 2002
Author: Amazon User

I too, am a fan of Star Wars and more specificly the Dark Forces games. I have all the previous games myself, but bought the Collector's Edition just for the purpose of collecting it. Jedi Outcast or Jedi Knight 2 or Dark Forces III or whatever you want to call it, is a great game. I haven't beaten it yet, but I am having a blast playing it. Sure, it's no Half-Life, but it is most definitely fun and not a waste of time. So, regardless of which case you buy this game in, I strongly recommend getting it. If you don't get the Collector's Edition, be sure to at least get Dark Forces and Jedi Knight because those are fun as well.

Incredible...the best in the series...

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 0 / 0
Date: August 07, 2002
Author: Amazon User

I own all of the Dark Forces games (yes, Jedi Knight is a spur off of Dark Forces) and this game is incredible. I have not yet stopped playing it. I am a complete geek when it comes to Star Wars and it is usually hard to please me with Star Wars games, but Lucas Arts did a fine job with this one. Definately a must buy!

This game is another perfect edition to the Star Wars legacy

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 1 / 1
Date: June 03, 2002
Author: Amazon User

This is one of the best packs you can buy!!! Is has all three Star Wars computer-games including JK2: Jedi Outcast which is very very fun. Besides being a very good FPS, having the force to push you enemies, throw your lightsaber, and pick up your dead enemies weapons is the best!!! The graphics are great, almost as good as RTCW, but the multiplayer is pretty close to RTCW. It is great to battle other on-line members with your lightsaber in the all-lightsaber battles. So if you like Star Wars, first-person-shooters, and killing storm troopers with lasers and a lightsaber, this is definitely a great deal for you.

It gets 5/5 stars.

Totally Awesome!

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 2 / 2
Date: May 12, 2002
Author: Amazon User

Jedi Outcast is a great game! I am not even a big Star Wars fan and I love it! The single player has a tolerable plot and loads of shoot-em-up action with a selection of weapons that can't be beat! Of course, you get to use the force in it too. Some force powers available in the game are push, pull, grip, and lightning. Also, no Star Wars game would be complete without the all-famous lightsaber. There are several things you can do with the lightsaber: three different swing stances, block throw...etc. Jedi Outcast also comes with a complete Multiplayer for all you Internet fans out there. The Multiplayer garantees several hours of fun with a selection of games to choose from such as Capture the Flag, Deathmatch, Lightsaber Dueling, and many more. Jedi Outcast is full of action-packed explosive fun with great graphics and unimaginable weapons, creatures and landscapes which will leave u clicking your mouse in excitement long into the night!

Very fun buy lockups very often.

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 0 / 1
Date: May 11, 2002
Author: Amazon User

This is an extremely fun game, but..
locks-up very often. It locks up the mouse and keyboard. The only option is to reboot. I cannot find anything on their website for a fix. I am using Windows2000 with an open GL graphics card.

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