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JEDI OUTCAST ROCKS

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 1 / 3
Date: March 28, 2002
Author: Amazon User

OKay, if you're at all a fan of either of the first get this game. It rocks. It takes the Quake 3 and Alien Versus Preator 2 Engins combinds them, supes them up and lets you out and an all out Jedi style war. Fun, Fast, Furrious, and totaly immursing play features. So many saber moves, new weapons and forece powers. You will love this if you enjoy any LucasArts games and or are a Star Wars fan. This thing rocked my world. I found it ingaging and fun, you could fall into the worlds of Kyle Katarn and Jan Oris again and again.

This is a great sequil to the sequil that killed the first in the series. And if you get the Collectors Edition you get the whole trilogy, and they have been revamped a bit. Dark Forces has never looked better.
Hope you all enjoy this thing it rules.

Pretty Good So Far..

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 2 / 8
Date: April 01, 2002
Author: Amazon User

Oh Boy! Jedi Knight 2 is finally here! Is it worth all the excitement?? Is it worth the hefty price or should you wait until it hits the "used software" bin?

Well, I bought the game yesterday for the full price (ANY game that costs more than $20 better give me alot of replay value and that is what I am expecting from JKII) and have played it for about 4 hours. My impressions: It has a lot of good points and some not so good points.

Good: You get to use the light saber and you get a choice of 1st or 3rd person views while fighting. You get a nice assortment of weapons, from hand held blasters to trip mines. Its a lot of fun chopping up stormtroopers with a light saber, nothing "airs out" a room full of Imperials better! People and things blow up quite nicely, thanks to the skillful programming by Raven Software. Damage and death animations are body part specific and I love the way stormtroopers kick the bucket when you nail them! The storyline behind all the action is very interesting, involving some secret experiments by the Empire. The game looks good, nice large levels, the save game feature is well constructed and the controls are easy to set up. Oh, and it runs fine on my PC with no problems at all (the most important quality of a game.)

Not So Good: I confess, I am using the cheat codes. Why? One reason is the paltry weapons that I got in the beginning; the Bryar pistol you start with seems to annoy stormtroopers more than actually harm them, you don't get to use the light saber right away. I also spent to much time hunting for switches and keys, although some of the game puzzles are interesting, "The Great Key/Switch Hunt" really got annoying at one point.

If you loved the first Jedi Knight game, then you will love this one too. If you are a non-Star Wars fan, you can still enjoy this game.

If you only knew the power... It is useless to resist!

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 7 / 8
Date: April 03, 2002
Author: Amazon User

Jedi Outcast is the best of a great series. The Dark Forces games (along with the X-wing) are what made Star Wars games COOL. Dark Forces was a good Doom-style game with interesting levels and plenty of stormtroopers. DF2: Jedi Knight was actually the Best PC Game of All Time, that is until a little game called Half-Life came and bested it. Jedi Knight put you in the shoes of a jedi apprentice, and gave you the choice of turning to the Light or Dark side of the force.

Now, with this special edition, you can get the 3rd game of the series, which is actually the best. With the extra money you pay, you will get a metal tin box, a lightsaber-key chain that lights up, and all 3 games in the series. The first 2 games look old but are actually fun to play, even now.

But forget about the past - lets talk Jedi Outcast. First of all, the graphics are awesome. Picture perfect. Stormtroopers look like stormtroopers, not some weird guys with rectangles for arms. Their suits curve like they should, they run like they should, and sound like they should. The same goes for plenty of other Star Wars "touches" through this game - you feel like you are walking through the movies: space ships, creatures, locations, planets, many things you remember and love from the first trilogy is present in this game. Of course the music and sound from the movies is here, but I admit I've heard these so many times in SW video games, they have lost their charm. At least they are present.

The story is also excellent, an equal of the great story from Jedi Knight (and better acted, too). Your character has rejected his jedi powers because of his temptation with the Dark side, and is now a mercenary again, just like he was in the first game. However, a mysterious new evil (a phantom menace? yuk-yuk) is leading a group of remnant Imperial soldiers back into power, and as you explore their organization you must once again wield a lightsaber and use the force. The story starts slow, mostly a series of common shoot-em-up missions with boring puzzles and too many stormtroopers, but the plot gradually builds until it has you firmly in its grips. You'll visit tatooine, and actually see Luke Skywalker and Lando (voiced by none other than Billy Dee Williams).

Your lightsaber and force powers are an integral part of this game. Sure, there are an array of weapons like all other FPS, but I found enough depth in the combination of the saber and force powers that I used these tools alone. In this game, the lightsaber now has actually swings and styles, like a fighting game, which make jedi duels more exciting and more strategic. The force powers are what you have seen in the movies - lightning, force jump, pull, mind tricks, and force speed (in which everything slows down to bullet time, a la Max Payne). This game is rather difficult, but once you have learned to the ways of the force in this game, you really feel like you have gained something saticfying.

Multiplayer is interesting with the addition of the Force and lightsabers, and you'll find some good combat out on the net, but get this game soon and master it, because about 4 months from now, nobody will be playing it. As with most games, a new title will attract our attention.

3dfx owners beware, I had serious problems running this game on my voodoo 5.

Jedi Outcast is a must own for Star Wars and FPS fans alike. Buy now, don't wait.

Best. Star Wars game. EVER.

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 6 / 6
Date: April 07, 2002
Author: Amazon User

Jedi Outcast is everything you could ever want for a sequel to Jedi Knight. For anyone who has long dreamed of having the powers of the force and to weild their own lightsaber, this game is for you. For anyone who enjoyed Jedi Knight, this game is for you. For anyone that loves Star Wars and computer games and gets every Star Wars game ever, this game is for you but you already have it, so nevermind.

Jedi Outcast is the third in a series of great PC games following the adventures of Kyle Katarn. You get each game of the series in this great collectors edition.(But you know you really got it for the keychain...) Dark Forces is a doom-esque first-person shooter in which Kyle is a mercenary during the galactic civil war(the orginal 3 movies). He ends up helping the rebels by retreiving the original Death Star plans. Mediocre graphics, relatively fun gameplay. To be honest, I've only played the first few levels of Dark forces, but it's quite fun. However, it only features guns as weaponry. If its sabers and force you're looking for, move on to Jedi Knight and Jedi Outcast.

Jedi Knight takes place after the events of Dark Forces. Kyle learns of a Dark Jedi Jerec who is trying to harness the power of the Valley of the Jedi, a secret land that contains the ultimate concentrated power of the force. If Jerec uses this power for the dark side, destruction would reign. It's up to Kyle, who soon discovers he is a Jedi, to stop him. After the first few levels, Kyle receives his lightsaber. You have to find secret areas in each level to earn "force stars" to apply to powers of your choice. Your selection increases with your progress. Jedi Knight has two outcomes that result from two styles of play. You can be wreckless and gain the destructive attacks of the darks side(shoot droids and bystanders) or defend the innocent and be blessed with the defensive power of the light side(dont shoot droids and bystanders). In the beginning, you can choose from powers on each side. There is a turning point where Kyle will go totally to the dark or light side(depending on your actions earlier) and go through the rest of the game using one side exclusively. It is rather fun, but the graphics aren't so great. The multiplayer on MSN gaming zone is quite interesting. I reccomend the Saber Battle X mod which greatly enhances lightsaber combat. There are numerous mods that make the game much more interesting online. Jedi Knight does have an expansion pack(Mysteries of the Sith) with more weapons, powers, and story but it is strangely not included.

Now to the good stuff. Jedi Outcast is the pinnacle of the series. It is the best yet. Kyle almost falls to the darkside and thus renounces his force powers and gives Luke Skywalker his lightsaber. He once again becomes a mercenary, now for the New Republic(it's now after the galactic civil war). Eventually, something happens that convinces Kyle to regain the force. He goes to the Massassi temple(the rebel base in "A New Hope", now Luke's Jedi Academy) There, he meets with Luke again with some great dialogue and backstory events, a very fun part of the game. You go through trials, learning new force powers until you get your lightsaber back. Then, you move on. The force powers are greatly improved and a lot more fun. Lightsaber combat is varied and as improved as the force powers. Jedi Outcast is more linear than Jedi Knight in that you receive your powers at pre-determined points. This means that you will use a bit of each side, but more to the light. Weapons are well done, a few from past games, but mostly new and very varied. There are new items like electrobinoculars and sentry drones which are neat to use. Gameplay is very fun once you get your powers and saber(although its pretty good beforehand). Jedi Outcast single-player is a blast, a great improvement over Jedi Knight. Multiplayer is really well done, too. While it's strange to see stormtroopers and Landos with lightsabers and the force, its not so bad. Lots of gameplay modes like Free-for-all, capture the flag, and some unique ones that involve the transfer of force powers based on who you kill. Multiplayer is definitally a great value in that you'll be playing it a lot. It's more a separate game than it is a "mode". There are a few problems however. You definitally need to aim much higer than the system requirements. Theres slowdown in outdoor environments, some puzzles can be tedious. You'll want lots of RAM for quickloading. Other than that, very few problems. Nothing to make you not play. Jedi Outcast: Collectors edition is great fun, a great value and some of the best Star Wars games for the PC. Highly reccomended for both Star Wars fans and computer game players of all kinds.

Jedi Knight is worth the price

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 0 / 0
Date: April 07, 2002
Author: Amazon User

I have been a fan of this series since the first Dark Forces came out. When I heard about the sequal to it I was excited and then extatic when i found out you turn into a jedi through the game. Now the third one came out. I picked it up as a b-day present to myself and was thoroughly impressed. The graphics are phenomenal. I love the fighting with the lightsaber in this one better than the second one. The flipping off walls and using force powers is a lot easier than in the the first Jedi Knight. Now for the gripes. The computer tends to make the bad guys move to fast. I found myself cursing the stormtroopers because i would take aim and then they'd be behind me. My biggest gripe of the whole game is the storyline. The first jedi knight had a really involved storyline involving many main villians. This one really has only one villian and boss who is faced at the end. Also many things were brought up and then never explained. I have beaten the game and i thought the overall ending was kind of anti-climatic. You go through this whole ordeal and the ending is just kinda of blah. But overall definately worth picking up if your looking for a new game.

Master Bakers Review

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 0 / 0
Date: April 08, 2002
Author: Amazon User

This is a great game and as a masive star wars fan it gave me much satisfaction. i would recomend this to anyone not just star wars fans like myself. it was great to see what happend to the likes of luke skywalker or as he is known in the game master skywalker, and lando calrision. aslo it was so cool to go to the jedi academy on yavin and get a light sabre by doin the jedi trials in the temple. overall a 5* game and i played it so much i finished it in 7 days.

JKII Rules All!!!!

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 0 / 0
Date: April 08, 2002
Author: Amazon User

I've been waiting for this game for a long, long time. And thankfully, it was well worth the wait. For the single player, the gameplay is excellent, the cinematics are of the expected stunning quality, and the plot is very well laid out too. The multiplayer is beyond awesome. It features Duels in tournament style, Free for alls, Team FFA, you name it. Hours of endless entertainment. Well worth the price and well worth the wait. If you liked the other Dark Forces/Jedi Knight games, this one will blow you away. Guaranteed.

Three of the best shooters ever made

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 4 / 4
Date: April 09, 2002
Author: Amazon User

If you haven't played Dark Forces or Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight, then get this collector's edition, as they contain both these excellent titles as well as Jedi Outcast. If you already have these games, get the normal version... .Now, on to the game.

Be warned- if you aren't good at shooters, Jedi Outcast will be a very hard game. It was possible to beat DF I and II with minimal skill at other shooters like Half-life or Unreal, but it isn't any longer. This is largely due to the absence of auto-aiming, which made mowing down a roomful of stormtroopers with the blaster rifle a simple task in the previous games. Now you'd either have to land a head shot every time, or have something that makes a very large explosion. Kyle seems to have lost his knack for firing while moving, and he doesn't move as fast or jump as high as he used to. Must be getting old and tired, but who can blame the guy? Enemies are also tougher across the board, and move a lot faster and smarter than they did in previous games. They also back each other up, retreat if wounded, and make effective use of cover.

Jedi Knight II uses the Quake III engine, and really pushes it to the limit. This is good and bad. On one hand, the graphics are incredible. On the other, if you don't have a reasonably powerful PC and graphics card, you probably won't be able to run the game with any of the incredible graphics. It's pretty important you are able to see the new effects, because when it comes down to it, the gameplay isn't a whole lot more different than Jedi Knight I.

On that note, this sequel pretty much adheres to the premise of the series. Many of the weapons will be quite familiar, and the enemies you encounter even more so. There is, however, much more interaction in this game- you can hear enemies chatting, view security camera feeds, and generally play with the environment more. Many objects in the environment are fully destructible, some spectacularly so. One of my favorite parts was driving one of the mouse robots by remote control. After shooting about a million of them in the last two games, it was kinda cool to see things from their perspective :-)

Overall, the game is an improvement over DF 2, though you might notice a lack of greater depth in the levels since the Q3 engine doesn't do those well. The puzzles in the missions are still there, but be warned that some of them are quite counterintuitive and obscure. I've already been stuck several times, and when I finally learned how to get out (usually from consulting with other players) it was always something I would never have imagined to do- I won't be a spoiler here and blow anything for you, in case you want a shot. At any rate, I've found myself wishing they'd included the strategy guide in this edition.

If you haven't played any of the old Dark Forces games, now's a great time to start! They're awesome, and you'll probably want to play Outcast after finishing them. As for Outcast itself, it's tough but in a good way. If anything, it's worth getting just to see an incredibly detailed rendition of the Star Wars universe.

Amazing game, with (small) reservations...

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 0 / 0
Date: April 09, 2002
Author: Amazon User

JK2 is not a perfect game. Its problems include:

1. Some strange, nonsensical puzzles that almost demand that you read a cheat guide or walkthrough. Too many "how do I jump there?" or "where is the switch/key?" puzzles, especially early on in the game.

2. An very high level of difficulty.

3. Some of the graphics look cartoony or washed-out, even with all the settings at "high" at 1024x768. Using "very high" texture detail will bog down virtually any system in the outdoor areas.

So why did I give this game 5 stars? Because, in spite of its small annoyances it is an incredibly fun game. There are games with better graphics like Return to Castle Wolfenstein and Max Payne, but JK2 is still a very good-looking game overall with lots of flashy visual effects. It starts as a pretty conventional first-person shooter, but once you get the lightsaber and force powers the game kicks into overdrive. When you get the hang of it, the lightsaber is the weapon you will use 90% of the time... not only is it powerful, but it is by far the most fun weapon ever put into an action game. Raven crossed the lightsaber fighting in the movies with a dose of Matrix-style acrobatics for some of the most dizzying, craziest fun you've ever had on a PC. JK2 really does give you something that no other shooter can. It also boasts 24 HUGE levels and plenty of replay value.

Multiplayer also works extremely well and is alot of fun, with a wide variety of game types and configuration options. The sound effects are first-rate. JK2 is also extremely stable and bug-free.

The bottom line: if you like action games, or anything involving Star Wars, get this game!

lightsaber saves the gameplay

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 0 / 0
Date: April 27, 2002
Author: Amazon User

Jedi Knight 2 overall is a very fun game, but if the lightsaber wasn't in the game, then it wouldn't be anything near what it is now. It starts out pretty slow on the story side and the action side. The initial weapons aren't very much fun to use and so I was playing pretty much just to get the lightsaber. Then I got it... and the force powers... Now, the combination of these makes this game VERY FUN! As soon as you get the saber, the action picks up. The ability to push your enemies and then use your saber on them while they are trying to get up is really fun. The story is satisfying but not brilliant. It can't compare to the story of Baldur's Gate II, but this is an action game so the story is not the strongest part, which is usual. At least, it gives you enough reason to slice through your enemies. The best part of the gameplay is the saber duels. They are challenging, but really fun!! They are some of the best action sequences since Half-Life.

The accompanying graphics are great. The models of the enemies and their animations are very well done. The shining helmets of the imperial forces and their death animations are brilliant, including the saber animations. The sounds are also really well done. The saber sounds are especially wonderful; it really immerses you into the Kyle Katarn character, and you feel like you are actually using the saber.

Finally a word on the collector's edition: It is a very good deal. The previous jedi knight games were known for their story-driven gameplay with great action sequences. Especially dark forces II is still engaging, and even though it looks dated, it is worth the 10 extra bucks. There is also a key chain in the shape of a saber, which is soooo big that I don't think I'll use it as a 'key-chain' at all. Looks nice on my table though...

Final verdict? This game is great. It might not be the best action game of the year, but it still is a lot of fun. Come on now, how many games give you a saber to play with accompanied with great graphics and sound? Buy this game, you won't be sorry!

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