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the last Metal Gear Solid game on PS2-And they made it good!

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 3 / 14
Date: March 14, 2006
Author: Amazon User

There has been four MGS games on PS2:
Metal Gear Solid 2:Sons Of Liberty
Metal Gear Solid 2:Substance
Metal Gear Solid 3:Snake Eater
Metal Gear Solid 3:SubSistence.
MGS3:S is a upgraded version of the "Snake Eater" game
here is the new and old goodies you get in it:

-The entire game of Snake Eater
-More "Snake vs.Monkey" missions(that minigame)
-A new Third Person camera similar to the one from the(crappy) Splinter Cell games.
-MGO-It is the debut of Online PLAY in the Metal Gear Solid-although in Snake Eater you could download camo`s so i guess its the debut of MGO play(I think you can download camo`s for S is well)
-The original 2D "Metal Gear" game
-AS WELL as the Metal Gear 2:Solid Snake-these two 2D games added in makes this game the Big Boss triology as MG1,MG2 and MGS3 are all about HIM.
-Theater mode:You can watch the MGS4(which is coming out on PS3) Trailer,all the scenes you have viewed in the game,and ALL the funny parody cutscenes that are available on the web-sit PLUS 3 OR 6 extra ones(they are done in English).
Also a peep-mode that alows the player to customise scenes with the SXY EVA.
Even if you Have already got Snake Eater this might be worth playing and the stars of the game are MGO PLAY debut and the new 3rd Person camera.I live in UK so i have to wait a while but i have played it on holiday in USA i rented it as my acomadation had a PS2(It was not really ment to be but they let me as it was ment to be released today)
Even if you are not a fan of MGS-Take a look at MGS3:Subsistence,just like Snake Eater was as they seperate from the main stoiry and GP-and it made me forget that it was MG!
its a prequal that goes back to 1964 so Solid Snake or anyone like that is in the game.
Forget Snake Eater just get this one-as even after you beat it,theres TONNS to do.
So if you have a PS2-This is worthy to put into your collection of Action games(thats if you collect action games-don`t bother if you don`t but of course almost Evryone has action games).
Good luck to MGS on PS3!

two words "BUY IT",ITS ONLY 30 Dollars in USA 20 bux cheaper than other games!-extra reckomended if you have PS2 Online play.

Bye.(gosh this is my last review for a PS2 MGS game)

review by:the MACHINE-DOG.

Metal Gear Solid 3 Better Than Ever!

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 3 / 7
Date: March 15, 2006
Author: Amazon User

Metal Gear Solid 3 is without a doubt one of the best Playstation 2 games out there. It's humorous, thought provoking and wonderfully scripted, and tells a fantastic story. However, it wasn't complete. At least it didn't feel complete. Well, Subsitence completes Metal Gear Solid 3. There's so much new material that even those who own the original Metal Gear Solid 3 will love this.

Since the game is basically a special edition, I think you might want to know more about what's new rather than me rehashing out the storyline. New and old fans alike will enjoy Subsistence, and here's why:

For starters, the camera has been reworked. In the original Metal Gear Solid 3, the camera was daunting. Making it easy to get spotted by guards while they were off screen (or you just didn't know they were there). It's easier to work with this new camera. If you miss the original one that much you can always switch back to it. But I think you'll find this camera does a better job of keeping things in perspective. It also makes some, already epic, boss battles even better.

There are more Snakes vs. Monkey levels. If you need a break from the game, this is a rather relaxing mini-game to play. Now instead of five levels we've got more.

Without a doubt, the best new feature in Subsistence is the ability to play online. In the original Metal Gear Solid 3 the only thing you could do online was download extra camouflages. Here, there's so much more. There are five different online modes.

Sneaking mode is where Snake must go in and find a microfilm and sneak it to the exit point. "Capture the frog" is a mode where both teams try hard to protect the frog in their base (the same basic thing as "Capture the Flag"). There's also a rescue mode where a team will help guide... a rubby ducky to safety. This is the only mode where you don't get infinite lives. Then, of course, there is the team deathmatch mode and the regular deathmatch mode. Both of which we know everything about. Still, taking Metal Gear Solid online was perfect. And it's surprisingly addictive and fun. Up to eight players can play, and after that... just watch the time fly by.

The game also introduces a duel mode. You can rush through all of the bosses in MGS3 without having to play the story. The game keeps score for you, and depending on how well you do you might get a camo. It's fun, fast-paced, and once again... works out very well.

If you enjoyed the story to MGS3, you can watch the demo theater and see each and every cutscene and watch the story unfold. It's nice if you want to watch a movie. And since MGS3 has a pretty good story, you might find yourself sitting down and watching it. This means feel free to skip everything int he main game.

Another great feature is in this package Konami included Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake. You want to see how far the series has come? This is the best way to do it. These games are NOT easy, though. But it's great to see just how far the series has come since the days on the original NES. This is another treat that makes it worthwhile to those who have the original.

These are the new features in Subsistence, and they're pretty good features. Unfortunately, the problems with the original MGS3 (slow story, long drawn out cutscenes, etc.) still exists. But that's still no problem. You can easily skip through all this. It's also disappointing that you can't use your original save files from the original Snake Eater. Again, something I'm sure you'll quickly overcome.

Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence is worth it. It works well to improve a few daunting things. Better yet, it still keeps the gameplay that made it fun in-tact. The new features are incredible, and any gamer new or old to the series will absolutely love this game!

A Must-Have For any MGS Series Fan

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 1 / 3
Date: March 16, 2006
Author: Amazon User

This latest installment of the Metal Gear series is an amazing leap with its addition of multiplayer and is a must-have for any serious fan of the series.

MGS: Subsistence comes in two disks:

Disc 1, labeled Subsistence, contains the full game of Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater, with a few additions to gameplay, including Eurpoean Extreme mode (where being sighted results in game over) and a new Third Person camera option to allow the player full rotation of the camera.

Disc 2, labeled Persistence, contains most of the new features of the game, including Online Mode, the main reason to get this game if you have the PS2 Network Adaptor (or the slim PS2). Also on this disk is Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2, original games released only in Japan in 1987 and 1990 (respectively) on the MSX console. There is also an enhanced form of the Snake vs. Monkey mode found on the original, with more missions and (very funny) cutscenes.

Online Play is an amazing leap in the series, with any person familiar with the MGS control scheme able to jump right in to the battle. All the gametypes are easy to understand, including:

Sneaking Mode: Snake vs. Others, Snake must capture a microchip.

Capture Mode: 2 Teams fight for a frog and holding it for 20 seconds at their base.

Protect Mode: 1 Team protects a duck, while the other team tries to steal it and bring it back to their base.

Team Deathmatch: 2 Teams in an all-out brawl.

Deathmatch: Pure death.

Also in online play, the Third Person camera comes especially in handy to see the field around you. As soldiers, you get your choice of a variety of weaponry, and can find stronger ones in the field. Familiar items (such as the girlie book) come into play to stop other players in their tracks. Players also can use their radio, in the form of a headset, if available, or in a set of premade radio commands sufficent enough to communicate important messages to your teammates quickly just by pressing select and two directional buttons.

In the midst of battle, you will find teams based on familiar in-game factions, such as Ocelot's group (with a randomly chosen Ocelot on the team), and Colonel Raidenovich with accompanying soldiers.

I highly recommend this game to any fan of the Metal Gear Solid series and can be treated as a complete replacement of the original, and with a cost of only $30, the game couldn't be any better.

Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence (Limited Edition)

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 0 / 8
Date: March 16, 2006
Author: Amazon User

Well This Is an awesome game!!!! And theres some good reviews about it here. But Mine is for the Limited Edition. Its more like a WTF? This Is Freaking impossible to find. Whats the deal! Pre-orders at EB never came cause they Lost or deleted the SKU for it. Why will a SKU number be deleted i dont know. And then they say that no body pre-order it ( I went to 5 EBGames & they all said the same thing) But I was lucky and at the last one I cheked they had only one and I was a pain in the ass until they sold it to me. Funny thing is nobody had pre-orderd the copy. So if somebody can explain the hole deal with this please be my guest. Anyways its worth getting cause the Theater Disc is Awesome but I have seen it sell on EBAY from $90 to $130 and thats a lot but hey its your choice.

Evolution

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 4 / 7
Date: March 20, 2006
Author: Amazon User

The jungle has reopened with a lot more than enough to go 'round
Pros:
-Excellent graphics
-Well done voice acting(Tho some of it is clieche'd/cheesey)
-Great backround music(Even the James Bondish theme song has grown on me)
-the 3rd person camera is freakin' sweet!!(No more looking around in 1st person to find out where enemies are)
-fantastic sound effects
-A very destructive aresonal(along with the shotgun, the AK, and the gun that never runs out of ammo, the patriot!)
-One of the, if not the best plot in videogames(Plot twists hit you up, down, left right, sideways, diagnal, reverse, aw u get it! It's seriously much better than sitting through a class to find out about the cuban missle chrisist)
-I never liked hunting for food........till now
-A lot more camoflauge offered than before
-Pretty realistic(Keeping a eye on everything: Health, Stamina, poison, cuts, and you gotta aim manually to get a good shot, unless you have the scorpion sub-machine gun(Laser sight, and the M-60 machine gun(Too big to aim through)
-Man Ocelot is so bad, he makes his crew look like natural born killers(Seriously, when I ofught him, his troops gave me more of a problem than he did)
-Awwwww... Eva! When Snake is ever hurt, all he needs is some sexual healing(*Sigh* if only that really happened)
-Weird but excellent boss fights, like the old man with the baseball sized eyeballs.(But he can be iced early, just watch out for his wheelchair after assasination)
-Online is the shrimp in the rice. You can team up with people with team death match, captue, and rescue missions, or just flat out kill everyone in deathmatch mode.(And you can be a couple of rumble roses chicks, but ya gotta spend over 50 hours online, something I'm far from doing)
-More snake V.S. Monkey missions(I usally don't play em' much, but yea.)
-The limited edition version comes with a DVD which splices all the cutseenes together and makes it a 3 hour 55 movie, and has a trailer for Metal Gear Solid 4(Altho if you have a limited edition version, it's best not to open them, if you know what I mean)
-No Radien, despite Snake is sometimes called Jack, which was Radien's name(I still don't get what was up with that?)
-Also included are the sequals, or rather the 2 games that came after this, Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2:Solid Snake(The 2 japanese versions that didn't come out in america; well the second anyway.)
-One of the best endings I've ever seen(Man, Kojima is just a genious. A prequal yet can beat out his earlier versions in endings)
The greatest prequal ever made, with the plot surpassing it's predissecors
The best Metal Gear Solid experience you can find when it comes to plot, no doubt, and if you have yet to play Snake Eater, don't start there, start here.
Cons:
-What is this game famus for? hmmmmmm, oh LONG CUTSEENES AND CALLS(I doubt that will ever change)
-No Radar, which makes it harder to know where the enemies are, and which way they are looking(Altho it's less of a problem with the 3rd person camera, it's still a problem)
-Even with camo, I get seen as if I were a shadow in broad daylight when I'm standing(Crawling takes a while, but it pays off with a stealth kill, but still)
-Keeping an eye on everything can get repetitive(Like after I healed a gunshot, some butt-monkey shot me with a poison needle)
-Traps are usally hard too see(Like getting stuck with arrows, walking into mines, ect. unless you got thermal goggles)
How could Snake not like James Bond flicks!?(After I saved it once, he talked crap about Bond, and in the 60s Sean Conery was Bond, the BEST BOND. I'd understand if it was Roger Moore, the major had every right to say something back at him)
-Is Volgin gay?(It's just that in a sertain seene he seemed that way)

Metal Gear Solid 3 is back, and back in a bigger, revamped way. Metal Gear solid 3 substance, is definitly better than MGS VR missions, and MGS2: substance by far. If any game developer is planning to make a game they made much more improved, they should check out how better this game is from the regular MGS3. This game is definitly recomended for those who love the MGS series, and those who love stealth games. Even if you have the regular MGS3, grab this, and if you never played MGS3 grab this. If you wanna be in a videogame where survival is not in a horror game, check this out. If you have a PS2 and don't have this game, someone should serve you up with a facial slap.

PS.oh yea... Does the name Saladin ring a bell?

peace

Better camera angles makes better game

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 3 / 16
Date: March 21, 2006
Author: Amazon User

I'm not a huge metal gear solid fan I'm more into splinter cell. I rented the first version of this game and couldn't get into it because the terrible camera angles; you really couldn't see much of anything and you had to rely on a radar just to find out if a gaurd was three feet in front of you, that was stupid. This new version has a pretty good camera system and that makes it a lot funner; you don't even need the radar anymore. I wish the guns could be used more like SC with an over the sholder view point, but other than that no complaints. The graphics for this game are amazing. I didn't even know ps2 was capable of this quality of graphics. It feels like I'm playing an xbox game. I love the night vision and thermal goggles, probably put in there for splinter cell fans. I also like the camoflauge idea it's real fun to see gaurds pass right by you and not even know you're there. I could care less about the story line and cut scenes, but you can jump right pass those without having to watch them if you're not interested in that type of thing.

Good game, much funner to play now than the original.

It's worth a purchase if you've never played MGS3 or are a die-hard fan.

3 Rating: 3, Useful: 3 / 4
Date: March 24, 2006
Author: Amazon User

If you missed out on the excellent MGS3 when it was first released, then here's your next chance to give the game a go-through. At only $30, this game is a deal.

The main new features Subsistence has are a new 3rd-person camera which is completely controllable with the right joystick, some added Snake Vs. Monkey missions, MSX ports of Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2, and an online mode.

At first I found what was included as new material to be lacking, but then I realized its price tag justifies how little there is for returning MGS fans. I say there's little for returning MGS fans because much of the new material is simply rehashing of old material. For example, there's a theatre where you can see all the cinematics from the game. As a MGS fan who's already played the game, I've already seen this. Or take another mode, where you can battle all the bosses at a whim. I've battled all of them before.

If anything, I think it's worth the purchase just for the MG and MG2 ports from the MSX system, and to a lesser extent for the online mode.

The online mode, though, just doesn't work too well. MGS's gameplay is meant for one player. In the 1-player experience, guards don't go after you even if you're hidden (unless you make yourself noticed) and nor do they come running out of nowhere. In most of the online modes of Subsistence, though, this isn't the case, obviously.

My main complaint is that the overhead view that's a staple of the MGS series just doesn't allow you to aim very well whatsoever. Yes, there is the new 3rd-person controllable camera, as well as the first person view, but these are unwieldy to use in the middle of battle. Usually by the time you switch to first person by pressing the R1 button and attempt to aim you're dead. I suppose all that's needed is to get used to the overhead, now 3rd person controlled perspective, but it's just not as natural as aiming on a first person shooter.

The mode that's closest to the actual 1-player experience - the sneaking mission - where one character is Snake and the rest are enemy guards - is the most effective of the multiplayer modes. In this mode, the person playing Snake tries to find the microfilm and return it to his base while the guards try to stop him. Here the gameplay holds up better because it's used for what it's suited for. In contrast, a mode like Team Deathmatch just isn't suited for MGS's gameplay mechanics.

The MSX ports of Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 are a great thing for fans of the series, and are great games in their own right. I'm sure many gamers from the NES days will recall playing MG on it. Well, this port is from the MSX (a computer system that Hideo Kojima published the two MGs on), and it's different than the MG for NES in a good way. The NES port had translation issues, as well as they changed some other things. But here we're given Hideo Kojima's full vision of MG and MG 2.

I haven't played MG 2 ever, but here in the US it was apparently released as MG 2: Snake's Revenge, and Hideo Kojima wasn't involved with it whatsoever from what I recall. So here we're given MG 2, as Hideo envisioned it, which is a great thing. The game was never formally released here in the US (we just got the aforementioned Snake's Revenge), so it's a great thing to have on Subsistence.

If you've never played MGS3: Snake Eater, then that's the biggest reason to purchase this game. For 30 bucks, you're getting it cheaper than when it was first released (it was $50), plus you're getting some great special features. Just playing through MGS3: Snake Eater alone is well worth $30.

If you're a casual fan of the series, I'm not sure if MGS3: Subsistence is worth running out to get, unless you know if the online mode is something you'd enjoy. Because that's about all that makes it worth getting to a casual fan. That and the ports of MG and MG 2. As I've said, the online mode isn't all it's cracked up to be (but that's just my take on it - perhaps you'd enjoy it more, for all I know). As a die-hard fan, though: definitely get it.

Subsistence was also released in a Limited Edition, which cost $40 ($10 more than the regular version). The only difference was that it came with a 3rd disc which contained a MGS3 movie presntation using the game's cutscenes and codec conversations. It isn't a big deal, but as a die-hard fan perhaps you want to get your mitts on it. It can't be found anywhere except ebay anymore, however, and it's of course going for ludicrous prices.

If you pre-ordered early enough, you also got a special DVD called Metal Gear Saga Vol. 1. This isn't too big of a deal to miss out on, either, so I wouldn't get in a twist over it. It's a nice addition, though. It goes over the MG and MGS storyline, from the beginning (MGS 3) to the end (MGS 2). Hideo Kojima is interviewed, and says some interesting things about each game. Again, not too big of a deal to miss out on.

I give this game three stars as a die-hard fan. If I weren't a die-hard fan, and I'd have just picked this game up and played it for the very first time, I would give it 5 stars.

As it stands, as a die-hard fan, I don't think it has enough extra features to justify more than 3 stars from me (maybe three and a half if I could go with that). Yes, its price makes up for this, but I was definitely at least somewhat disappointed with the lack of extras.

EPIC!

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 4 / 5
Date: March 27, 2006
Author: Amazon User

This is one of the greatest video game titles of all time. This is only one person's point of view, but the only games that are on par with the production values of this title are GTA: San Andreas, God of War, and Ninja Gaiden Black for the XBOX.

I played the orginal Snake Eater before this and was torn between both loving and hating the game and for only one reason: The adjustable 3rd person camera, or lack there of, was a horror that ruined the experience. Subsistence now brings the 3rd person fully adjustable camera into play, as others have mentioned, and changes gameplay entirely for the extreme better. Splinter Cell Chaos Theory (SC:CT) was an incredible achievement in gameplay and was always one step ahead of Metal Gear for this reason as well as on-line play. Subsistence is now truly the king of stealth in every way possible. That says a lot because SC:CT is pretty awesome in its own right.

Graphics - Simply put: Breathtaking. I was in constant amazement throughout the entire experience. There is also virtually no frame speed loss; even on-line. These graphics are on par with Ninja Gaiden Black on XBOX, maybe even better in some areas. They are certainly comparable to SC:CT on XBOX. Again, that is saying a lot because XBOX is a more powerful platform.

Gameplay/Control- As tight as, if not tighter than, SC:CT. There is a learning curve, but once you are over the curve, the controls fit like a glove. The game is a stealth game, and excels like no other in that genre. If you decide to take on enemies in head-on action sequences, the controls do faulter a little, especially in on-line play. I do agree with some concerns below about on-line. However, utilizing the Scorpion gun with lazer beam bead will help you blast live opponents away. I hardly ever play any on-line games getting my a$$ handed to me by 8 year olds in Halo 2. With Subsistence I didn't have too much trouble being competitive on-line. One thing that SC:CT does have over Subsistence is the ability to save at any point in the game. Subsistence has a weird transition/save point system that is decent, but can not compare to the "save at any point" functionality that SC:CT utilizes.

Sound - Voice-acting was excellent, though cheesy at times. Weapon and environment sounds are life-like.

Story - Again, only from one person's point of view, but to me, God of War had the all time best video game story. Subsistence comes in second. It was a great story with excellent visuals for cut-scenes. Some of it is a little cheesy, but the twists and turns learned at the end of the game were clever.

Extras: The Dual Mode, Theater Mode, Secret Theater, Snake vs. Monkey, On-Line, and original MG1 & 2 games justifies this title being one of the greatest of all time.

ONE OF THE TOP 10 GAMES on the PS2(my opinion)

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 0 / 10
Date: March 28, 2006
Author: Amazon User

(Not in any specific order:)

1)Metal Gear Solid 3:Subsistence(replaces Snake Eater)
2)Metal Gear Solid 2:Sons Of Liberty
3)SOCOM:U.S. Navy SEALs.
4)Resident Evil 4
5)Grand Theft Auto III
6)Grand Theft Auto:Vice City
7)BLACK
8)WWE SmackDown! Here Comes The Pain(2003)
9)Driver:Parallel Lines
10)Tom Clancy`s Splinter Cell:Chaos Theory(I didn`t like its preds but i did LOVE SC3-Not as much as MGS3 though).

bye.

Online Mode, New Extras, and a $30 Price Tag - What Else Can You Ask For?

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 6 / 7
Date: March 29, 2006
Author: Amazon User

When I heard this game was about to be released, I sold my MGS3:Snake Eater here on Amazon and immediately pre-ordered this game. After playing Subsistence, I can honestly say that it was well worth the money.

The initial main draw for me was the new addition of the Online Mode which has some nice variety in mode selection and a lot of replay value once you get the hang of it. At first I was concerned with the quality of online play mechanics and potential lag, but haven't encountered any serious problems yet! Once in a while you will run across the occasional cheater, but it's not typical of the online experience and you can set the game to boot them automatically. Also, it's very easy to set-up for online play and is free of charge.

But the fun doesn't stop there. The new Boss Battle mode is another great addition. I didn't expect this to be much fun when I first heard about it, but after playing it I can honestly say that I was pleasantly surprised. In some ways, the Boss Battle mode can be even more addictive than the Online mode.

Overall, this is a great purchase and has a lot to offer, especially at the price tag of $30.00. I can't imagine anyone would be disappointed with this update to MGS3:SE. And if you're looking for something more, you might want to check out MGS3:Subsitence LE, Metal Gear Saga Vol. 1 DVD, and the MGS3:SE soundtrack - all easily acquired on eBay.

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