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Very Dissapointing

2 Rating: 2, Useful: 8 / 12
Date: February 08, 2007
Author: Amazon User

First i'd like to ask, did the first reviewer even play the game? I am a huge fan of the Winning Eleven/Pro Evo series. I bought this game yesterday and was excited to start playing. After about a half hour of playing i realized that the graphics are barely even updated. They seems to be just a slightly bit better than last years Winning Eleven 9 on the xbox. To me this is unacceptable considering this is supposed to be next-gen.
Onto the next dissapointment. Less leagues. No German Bundesliga this year. Also very basic editing is included. You cannot change the team names, league names, stadium names or add teams. The only thing thats available is you can change the players names and stats.

Masters league mode is untouched, so if you played any of the previous few games in this series it will be the same

The gameplay is still superb and probably the best soccer gameplay out there (although Fifa has closed the gap a bit this year). That is this games only saving grace. I just dont see the justification of spending $50 for a game that is basically the same as last years. Oh but with less leagues and less stadiums. Only 8 stadiums in this game by the way.

What Happened

2 Rating: 2, Useful: 4 / 7
Date: February 09, 2007
Author: Amazon User

I had purchased each installment of EA's FIFA series until 2005, when I warily opted for Winning Eleven 8. Since that point I have been a vehement supporter of the WE/Pro-Evo series and have gotten many of my friends to play and love the game. Yesterday, I purchased Pro-Evo 2007 and could not wait to play it on a next-gen console. I fired it up and was pleased by the intro - crisp and original. The actual game menu came up and I was initially thrown off by the blaring/annoying menu music and sloppy-looking display. This didn't bother me as the series is not known for good looking menus, but rather solid, non-inhibiting play. Starting a match, I noticed that there were not many "new" items included (as the previous reviewer pointed out, no Bundesliga). I started the actual match and was initially impressed by the graphics and gameplay. That is until I started having frame-rate issues and noticed that the graphics from the Xbox version were pretty comparable. The controls kept giving me issues and I tried tweaking different button arrangements until I found something serviceable. I came to the realization that the 360 controller doesn't translate well to the control scheme. After the match, I played a game over Live and found that there were more frame rate/horrible lag issues. My opponent quit. I ended up sighing and putting in Fight Night Round 3. Long story short - the "new" parts to the game (enhanced graphics,...ummm....Man U?) do not sufficiently negate the "ugly" parts (horrible music, control scheme/controller disconnect, frame rate problems, etc...). I keep telling myself that I'll like it after I play it more, but I hate that I have to tell myself that.

2/17/07 - I've played Pro Evo 2007 pretty extensively since I initially posted the review and have found that the game is pretty solid. My friend sent me a text message stating - "The game itself is good, but Konami gets an F for effort." I agree with him completely. This game is very fun to play and should be purchased, but be aware that you will be frustrated when you see the wasted potential for greatness.

It was a Pitty to Wait so Long for This

2 Rating: 2, Useful: 1 / 1
Date: June 26, 2007
Author: Amazon User

It was a [...] that for die hard fans of this Konami game, they would lauch this version for the X Box 360. I have been playing the PES games for about 6 years, and I just cann't understand how they can leave out the Edit Mode, I mean you cann't put the players you like in the team you like or chance the faces, names and other aspects of the players.

I had to buy a PS2 again, just to continue playing the PES game that I love, because in the PS2 and PSP versions you can find the COMPLETE EDIT MODE. Why? Did they rush this game for the X Box 360? I cann't understand it.

Hope next time they complete the game, and not leave us with half the game we were expecting.

1/2 a game...

2 Rating: 2, Useful: 0 / 0
Date: June 19, 2008
Author: Amazon User

First, I have to say that I much prefer Winning Eleven over Fifa, simply because of the gameplay. That said, this game is a disappointment. I, along with everyone who has stuck with Winning Eleven over the years, understand that they emphasize the A.I. over presentation. However, this game is pushing it considering the power of the Xbox 360. A bit of improvement would have been nice, because this looks just like the PS2 version.

The reason I actually bought this game is because I had it on the PS2, and did not want to drop $50 for 2008 just to play it on the Xbox 360. That said, I am half considering breaking this disk in half and playing only on my PS2. One would assume that because it is the SAME game, just different systems, the games would be the same. This is not the case.

The first thing I noticed that was missing was the during game and post game statistics. I can't even imagine why they would leave this out. Second, in masters league mode there is no during season training. Therefore, you cannot improve the players you don't use. This, over time, gets quite frustrating, to the point where you don't want to play the seasons and just play matches.

Really, the gameplay is as good as ever, though the PS2 plays better. I find that the A.I. is random, and slow to react (mostly the players on your own team). Also, the must have changed something with the Side Backs because they simply do not fall back when you lose possession (extremely frustrating).

All in all, I just don't get it. Why not improve the game to compliment the new system? Why produce a game with the same graphics and half the features?

I say wait for '09 and read the reviews, if they improve the graphics then buy it, if not, I say switch to FIFA or one of the many games created using its engine. They will catch up quickly with the A.I., and Konami doesn't seem to be making any effort to produce something new.

Is this next-gen?

3 Rating: 3, Useful: 4 / 4
Date: March 19, 2007
Author: Amazon User

I just bought this game and I was really excited about it. I opened it up and immediately tried to get to the edit mode to change some uniforms and player physics and get into the game, but OH surprise! there isn't an edit mode to change that kinda stuff, only a lousy change player name mode, what a dissapointment. Anyway I played the game and found out that the gamelpay has been slightly modified, and that's okay, it's kind of more realistic now, that's cool but the surprises keep coming and I found out that the German league was left out, what the "$%"#? Theeeeen and this is really serious: YOU CAN'T SAVE YOUR GOALS!!!!! AAAAHH!! What happened to Konami that realeased such an incomplete game? It feels like a beta version or something. Xboxlive is better than WE9, it isn't so lagged. I expected even more options for the 360 version than the last winning eleven 9, but actually they removed stuff form the game that complemented it. Great gameplay but it really sucked to leave out all those options, I still have a fool's hope on konami to release something on the xboxlive to change some options hehe.

Konami makers got to make the next one better for the Xbox 360

3 Rating: 3, Useful: 3 / 6
Date: February 17, 2007
Author: Amazon User

I played the game for PS2 and Xbox 360 and I got say it better for the PS2 because it had all the Stadiums. Also you can make player tranfers. For the 360 the graphices good but it could be better. For the next Winning Eleven for 360 they need a couple of things 1.Need all the stadiums 2. Player Tranfer 3. Player Jersey moving separate from body and Player Jersey get dirty when sliding 4.You and a friend can make a league online like the EPL. If they fix those things then the game will be perfect to me and couple other die hard soccer fans

Great game....tinged with disappointment

3 Rating: 3, Useful: 1 / 1
Date: May 30, 2007
Author: Amazon User

I have purchased every Pro Evolution/Winning Eleven game every since their introduction. I have always been impressed and happy with them and so to christen my new Xbox 360, decided to but the latest version.

I also purchased the version for the PS2 for my brother and the comparisons, in terms of gameplay are minimal. They are virtually identical, in terms of controls, music, graphics (though on my HDTV, the X360 version looks fantastic and has the edge) and so in that respect, I am happy.

What is most disappointing is for the most bizarre reason, there are no customisable features. No longer can you create a new team, make a player, transfer players to other teams nor even save your own goals. On top of that, there are only 5 stadia, and no ways to stamp your own mark on the game.

For the investment on a 20GB hard drive, $60 for the game (and $10 more than the superior PS2 version) I would expect to be able to do all of the above. That is why I purchased a next generation console.

Why not? Only the bigwigs at Microsoft know. It seems with a few games on here, you cannot customise the games as before.

I suspect that Konami are planning to release a download via Xbox Live which enables the missing features. If so, they should consider giving this to the owners of the game free of charge or at least offer a rebate on the next version, as this feels like it is a beta version or still in testing.

Gameplay wise, the players are intelligent, the AI clever and the matches true to life. You get your midfield battles, your free flowing football or your defensive stalemates, depending on how you like to play. I would like a bit more control over the tactics but overall the game flows and plays like a dream.

The commentary is so-so, with the soundbytes sometimes irrelevant to what's going on. Music is annoying but ok and as I said, the game looks beautiful.

However, it feels as if I have been ripped off here and that I bought a product that is half-finished. I only hope that next time round, Konami stays loyal to its fan base and gives them all the complete game they, and this superb franchise, deserve.

Good soccer game, but

3 Rating: 3, Useful: 0 / 0
Date: July 28, 2007
Author: Amazon User

this game is very fun to play and you can play for hours if you wanted to. however, i give this game a 3/5 because of its pathetic Xbox Live experience. if you have played it online, you'll know what i'm talking about. you can't deny anyone who you don't wanna play, sometimes it takes forever to find somebody you WANT TO play. and there's no freaking LOBBY. one horrible thing about this game is that it's a little too hard sometimes. every time you tap your shoot button lightly, the freaking ball just goes over the goal and it goes outside the stadium or something! ugh !! bottom line, it's a little more realistic than FIFA and it's pretty fun. worth a try.

One Step Forward, Two Steps Back . . .

3 Rating: 3, Useful: 0 / 0
Date: September 19, 2007
Author: Amazon User

Was VERY excited to try this game on the 360 console after being a Winning Eleven 8 & 9 ADDICT on the PS2 for 3+ years.

My observations . . .

Visual experience: The graphics are beautiful, but were not as advanced as what I had expected from the new gaming console.

Game play: I have read other reviews that laud the more realistic gameplay compared to earlier versions. On the positive side, slide tackling is now a viable option on defense to steal the ball. Prior versions also seemed to suffer from an over-abundance of fouls called on challenges, putting a premium on set pieces and slowing the run of play. However, I find that this version has over-compensated by allowing defenders to hang on attacking players and obstruct runs without fouls being called. It seems the only fouls called are the ones worthy of a card. Reviewers have also commented on more intelligent runs from teammates, making attacking play more realistic. Frankly, I don't see this and am constantly cursing at the screen as I watch my other teammates retreat when I steal the ball and am on a breakaway or they continue running forward on the attack after on unfortunate turnover in the midfield.

Longevity: The fact that I am still playing this game has more to do with the fact that I'm a soccer addict than anything else. I REALLY hate the fact that the ability to create your own team, your own uniforms, your own players, and edit team names, edit player names, etc. have all been left out. It is incomprehensible to me that a new game on a new/improved console with more memory would drop these features.

Bottom Line: Entertaining soccer game. Trademark soccer realism of Winning Eleven series. One step forward for graphics and visual experience. Two steps back with loss of personal customization features. People looking for a good soccer game will like this game. Long-time devotees of the Winning Eleven brand will be underwelmed.

Long Game Title

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 7 / 8
Date: February 09, 2007
Author: Amazon User

Firstly, your opponent that quit on you R. Conover, may have been me. I left a game last night because my opponent had a terrible Internet connection.

Anyway, for my review. WEPES2007 is a mixed bag, with mostly good aspects. The gameplay is great, like it always has been. My biggest gripe from last year's game has been fixed, and that's the fact that my teammates now run for a loose ball. Last year, they didn't, and that completely put me off from the game. This year, however, my teammates now work as a team. They also attack the opposition when they have the ball, whereas they ran away from the ball-controller last year. Just this one fix has greatly increased the enjoyment level over last year's version.

Some people will complain that it's too hard to shoot, when it's actually realistic. If you are able to get set and have time to line your shot, it's not that hard. But as we all know, that's not likely to happen. So, you'll take shots on the run a lot, and those are less accurate. That's realism. I would rather have it hard to make a shot and have a realistic score than to have a 13-10 final. This is not an arcade style game, it's sim.

The graphics are disappointing, not much of a step up from last year's PS2 version (which I owned and reviwed, and did not like). Luckily, I have an HDTV, so I get the clarity and crispness of the game. However, if you do not own a high-definition television, don't expect the look of it to wow you. Closeup, the players look good. On the field, they look like they always have.

The audio is virtually untouched. The announcing is accurate, the crowd sounds good, and the menu music is awful. The menus themselves are pretty ugly too, I forgot to mention that.

Online play is great, as long as you're not playing an opponent who has a bad connection. That, of course, can happen with any game though. If you are playing an opponent with a good connection, you can have brilliant experiences online. The entire game is exciting online, very fun.

If you have enjoyed past versions of Winning Eleven (Pro Evolution Soccer), you will like this one. There is still a lack of clubs, but that's nothing new. You CANNOT edit team names, logos, flags, or stadiums. But, since I'm not a diehard international fan, I'm not bothered by that. The gameplay is where it's at, and Winning Eleven is great at gameplay. If you're a fan of the franchise, fan of soccer, own a 360, and have $50 (not $60), you should go buy the next-gen version of the series.

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