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Not Available for less than arm and leg now

3 Rating: 3, Useful: 0 / 0
Date: March 20, 2008
Author: Amazon User

I purchased the game without the flightstick a week ago and I love it! I've been exclusively flying pc simulators since 1994 and this was a refreshing experience. No IT'S NOT A SIMULATOR!! If you approach the GAME with that in mind, I believe you will enjoy it. By far the main selling point of this game is the unbelievable graphics compared to what's possible with pc simulators...talk about eye candy. If you want "realism" in a combat sim, go for something pc such as Falcon 4.0 Allied Assault, or Lock On: Modern Air Combat. But if you just want to run and gun and marvel at some superb scenery along the way, this is the game.

Like the title of the review says, the flight stick is not available as a new purchase anymore, even as a standalone item. This is why this "available from the following resellers" item doesn't get higher marks in my review. Before it was realized that a flight stick was a feasible reality for a console game, I would have just accepted using just a controller. It's clear that actual flight simmers were not the target audience here...baffling missed opportunity since Microsoft Flight Simulator controls something like 97 percent of the flightsim audience. Some of us are actually willing to trade off an acceptable degree of realism for a better entertainment experience in the combat genre.

Just like the intro days of the console, Microsoft has left the public at the mercy of mercenaries on Ebay if you want to own one of these flight sticks. I cannot for the life of me understand the logic with this one. Limited edition...it's a joystick for crying out loud! It's a tool to reap the maximum experience from a game that should be available for purchase. Atari, Colecovision, Intellivision, Genesis, and the other ancient consoles haven't really become "collector's items". Their games were either re-released for other systems, or they were forgotten; Xbox 360 will follow the same as more advanced technology comes into play. Their pattern of attempts to manufacture value is pathetic in my opinion.

What a rip off!

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 0 / 0
Date: August 08, 2008
Author: Amazon User

The game is pretty good, and no doubt it would even be better if I had the flight stick but I just can't bring myself to buy something that is not even worth the cost of making the controller. This is a product that rips people off(just the stick not the game) I really hope they drop the price at least 50 dollars. And they should sell them sepratly.

Top Gun

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 0 / 1
Date: December 02, 2007
Author: Amazon User

At the time of release I was unable to purchase this Item''''but I have friends in High places...on the hill...???
Great game great piece of equipment...........top gun

Way to difficult

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 1 / 16
Date: December 13, 2007
Author: Amazon User

This was purchased for my son as a gift. He is 10 and a wiz with his X Box 360 games. This game is not playable for him. The tutorial does not EXPLAIN how to make manuevers, it just tells you to "Maintain level Flight". Okay, how do we do that? How about some on screen examples? He's 10, he's not going to read the manual. Ace Combat folks need to remember:

K.I.S.S.

Keep
It
Simple
Stupid.

Great, but not much improved from PS2 itles

3 Rating: 3, Useful: 1 / 15
Date: October 26, 2007
Author: Amazon User

They also made a flight control stick that came with a limited addition patch and Ace Combat 5 for the PS2. I have a 65" HD 1080P and HDMI hook ups and I can't really tell that much of a difference from one to the other. I would advise getting the PS2 package (can find them on ebay now for $100) and get Ace Combat 4, 5, and Zero. There is the online aspect on the 360, but I wasn't really that impressed with that.

If you don't own a PS2 or are a die hard fan of the franchise like me you may want to pick it up. The only complaints I have on this stick is it looks crappy -white/green/with big colored xbox buttons wheras the PS2 one was black and looked just like a flight stick. The other thing is the construction doesn't seem to be as strong-there is a lot of creeking when you move the altitude stick.

no directions included

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 2 / 10
Date: December 26, 2007
Author: Amazon User

You'd think after you spent almost $[...] that they would give you some idea how to operate it. No instructions included except a little review on the box if you want to sit there with a box on your lap. What ever happened to giving you an operating manual or direction book with a product. I will never waste my money on something like this again. If I would have known there are no instructions, I wouldn't have bought it. Hope the manufacturers read these things and take note.

Finally... A worthy Flight Combat Sim in almost 10 years after D.I.D.'S "T.A.W." and Jane's "USAF"

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 1 / 2
Date: February 04, 2008
Author: Amazon User

After almost 10 years since Digital Image Design's (D.I.D.) "Total Air War"(T.A.W.) and Jane's "USAF", here is a Flight Combat Sim that is a worthy successor to those Great Flight Sims of the past. Today we have "Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation". This game has to be played with a flight stick and throttle in order to fully immerse yourself into this flight sim. The only thing more I could hope for is that this game makes it to P.C. in the near future...

Incredible Graphics.... and a ton of crash bugs. Hold off a few weeks.

2 Rating: 2, Useful: 2 / 7
Date: October 31, 2007
Author: Amazon User

I've always been a huge Ace Combat fan, I think I probably played through Ace Combat 5 fifty times, so when this came out I was pretty excited. Sadly while what little of the game I've seen is incredible visually, it has some major bugs. Notably that it crashes every... 5-10 minutes. Typically I get maybe 5 minutes into the first mission, but I've had it glitch as early as the plane selection screen. On the whole pretty depressing. Now its possible I've gotten a bad disk, but judging by some reviews on other sites (IGN notably) there are others with the same issue.

I'd suggest waiting at least a few weeks to pick it up, otherwise your risking unplayability.

very cool set

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 1 / 1
Date: January 01, 2008
Author: Amazon User

I liked this game very much. The flight sticks are great and feel very natural to play a flight game with. The only thing that was lacking was the story of the game. That is why I gave 4 stars. Game play is fine, graphics are great, and the sound is awesome.

Flightstick not worth it.

2 Rating: 2, Useful: 1 / 1
Date: June 08, 2008
Author: Amazon User

Some of the reviews of the AC6 Flightstick Bundle seem to be only for the game itself. I reviewed the game itself separately. This review is for the flightstick bundle, which comes in the box displayed by amazon here.

I bought a used set that came complete with everything from the original purchase, box, cords, faceplate, etc. And, everything worked fine and as intended.

However, I found these controls to be not really much fun at all. My experience with them showed they were slow, sluggish, and difficult to be precise with. I went through AC6 entirely, on two different levels. The only way I could get anywhere beyond about the first 5 missions was to revert to the standard hand-held controller. With that, I could control the plane very precisely.

The flight stick is a great concept, but I feel it's actual performance is much below what I anticipated. It really boils down to being able to control the plane quickly and precisely, which just wouldn't happen with this flightstick for me. Others may have a completely different experience. Read the reviews here to gain an idea of what some gamers have to say about their flightstick.

No instructions come with the bundle, this is the way it came from the factory. There is a somewhat confusing schema on the side of the box which attempts to explain what the function of each button/movement will be. I also bought a game guide which devoted a page to labeling the buttons and trying to correlate them with what the buttons on the hand-held controller did. This helped, but some of it you really had to figure out by trial and error.

Again, some gamers perhaps have had a stellar experience with this Flightstick Bundle. I did not. My experience with the Ace Combat series includes all of them from Air Combat (the first one) through Ace Combat 6, including Ace Combat Zero. All completed at multiple levels. For whatever reason, I was never able to become good enough with the stick to even approach what I could do with the standard controller.

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