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Dissapointing... not for soccer purists

2 Rating: 2, Useful: 0 / 17
Date: February 11, 2005
Author: Amazon User

Maybe I was expecting too much out of it, but after playing it for 30 minutes I realized how FIFA 2005 is worth every single penny. Although the graphics are outstanding, the movements of the players are dull and robotic. The players' jerseys nearly look like the real ones for most teams, and some local teams don't even exist. There are two teams called "Pampa" and "Patagonia" (WTF???????) with the colors barely similar to Boca Juniors and River Plate, whose players have fake names that sound like the real ones ("Atontanchieri" instead of "Abondanzzieri", and so on). If you like to play a game that looks realistic from any aspect, go for FIFA 2005.

Better Than Fifa?

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 0 / 1
Date: July 31, 2005
Author: Amazon User

WE(Winning Eleven8) is better than fifa with it superb gameplay and it graphics Fifa did not encluded some good national teams such as Japan,Netherlands,South Korea,Columbia,South Africa,and Senegal I was also Dissapointed of Fifa not having the Argentina League,Russian League,and the J league Overall I give Winning Eleven a 100% and fifa 70%

KONAMI FINALLY STRIKES BACK !

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 1 / 3
Date: February 06, 2005
Author: Amazon User

This is without any doubt the BEST soccer game EVER created on any consoles! The gameplay is the killer. You will be busy for days to learn all the tricks. The only reason that this game might not get 5 stars is because of its poor sound and music collection. Honestly I dont care so much about licensed player. They all look awesome and after playing this game you will not care if they are licensed or not. The graphics are awesome. This is not just a soccer game. This is soccer combined with real action that's gonna keep you busy for a long time.
KONAMI, THANK YOU FOR RELEASING THIS GAME FINALLY IN AMERICA AND XBOX. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK

Tremendous transition from real soccer

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 1 / 2
Date: January 14, 2006
Author: Amazon User

I myself have played soccer for many, many years. I watch tons of soccer matches, even on the spanish channels. This game really recreates the soccer experience quite well. The AI seems to be top notch and will adjust playing styles, the animations are quite fluid, and the game really requires skill and strategy to play. You do not need to know soccer to play as the game is that simple to pick up. Kick the ball in the net. The real challenge is how the ball has gotten to that point. I personally think this is one of the best soccer games I have ever played and is leaps and bounds over the EA Fifa series. This game may force EA's hand on the soccer market though so keep an eye out for the coming years to see what comes next.

I would recommend this game to skill level of player.

Best Soccer Sim (Bad US Distribution Though)

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 2 / 4
Date: February 10, 2005
Author: Amazon User

This game is the same as the European "Pro Evolution Soccer 4" and if you have heard the buzz surrounding that game then you should know that this is really the only soccer game worth buying and probably in the top three sports simulations of all time.

The problem has been that Vivendi are too slow in releasing Winning Eleven 9, i.e - Pro Evolution Soccer 4, which has been out for months now in Europe. Vivendi really need to pick up the pace there.

The game has been in development since the Nintendo 64 and is easily the best soccer engine out there. All of the players have full character skins that resemble the players in reality (real moving hair!), except some of the names are not the same because of license issues (don't worry you can edit everything in this game).

Apart from the outstanding game engine (replay mode is almost like real soccer on television) the character animations are intricate and extremely realistic. The players respond to fouls by falling in a multiple number of ways, other players throw their hands up in disgust at missing a goal or crash to their knees in exhaustion. Belt in a goal and watch them do a pile up as the crowd goes wild. Some players even have special moves.

Unlike most of the other soccer games this is a simulation rather than an arcade kick-about so if you are not prepared to spend a few days learning the controls and how to operate the environments, including formations and in-game strategies - you might just want to forget about this one, however this is the domain where the master players live and share memory card saved data with one another. In short soccer freaks the world over either have it, want it or plague the family of someone who has it.

The AI is really what makes Pro Evolution Soccer 4 stand out. It is also like really controlling little men on the pitch... what am I saying... they ARE really little men on the pitch (yes the game IS that good). There are 50 national teams and 60 fake teams. You need to go on the internet to find out who Konami imagined these fake teams to really be so you can edit in the right players names and team names (remember Konami does not have a license for everything so be prepared to do a bit of fiddling, however a huge percentage of the teams and players are already licensed).

There are multiple modes/games to choose from (up to 8 controllers/players can be used with this game) friendly matches, team play, match modes, cup modes, leagues, training simulations, edit modes and a Master League mode, each with several options for the type of game you want to play... there is no shortage of cups to win in this game. When you win about 3 cups you then have enough credits to start team transfers (meaning you can update EVERYTHING in this game to resemble actual football teams) and you can also create your own ALL STARS team.

The bottom line is that the manual for this thing is huge and it is everything you could ever want soccer to be. If there is one soccer game to own for the PS2, then this is it by a long shot. It is a great investment considering how many of your friends will play it to death with you over the many weekends to come.

If you play sport and don't own this game, then what are you waiting for? Just get this game, learn it, read the manual and be the best you can at it. This is the universal PS2 game that everyone who loves soccer plays and a really good dream team effort from Konami.

As a note the PAL version hacked for the PS2 with modchips was available for NTSC players long ago. So basically illegal copies where doing the rounds in America months and months before the official version was released. Given that Vivendi had such terrible problems with the release of HL2 it seems that there is a pattern emerging here. I feel sorry for the Konami programmers who will not see their just rewards because of bad distribution.

Better Than FIFA

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 2 / 3
Date: February 15, 2005
Author: Amazon User

I am from England where ever loves FIFA but now there is a new footy game on the market and everyone is turning. In the UK its called Pro Evolution Soccer 4 and i have had ever single one of them sice Pro Evo 1. They all better than FIFA because it has better game play and is much fast than FIFA which is slow and boring not like the beautiful game of football but the only thing FIFA has over Pro Evo is that it has better graphics and has the real names, which is made up for in gameplay. This is a great game playing against your mates because the pace of the game is gets much faster. This is much better than FIFA and the more people that buy it the more real kits and names there will be on the game SO BUY IT.

The best soccer sim out there.

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 2 / 2
Date: September 01, 2005
Author: Amazon User

I was a Fifa guy for years, and finally made the switch to Winning Eleven this year. I can't overstate how incredibly deep, detailed and engrossing WE is. Fifa isn't a bad game, but it feels very arcady compared to WE; the latter has a wealth of options that should accomodate even the most hardcore soccer/football fans. Want to see a diagram of what parts of the field your reserve midfielder used the most? Check. The statistical wealth is crazy, and the gameplay is even better. This game manages to be challenging without turning off newbies, and that is quite a feat. There are more moves in this game than in many fighting games!

Overall, even if you are a casual fan of soccer, WE will entertain and win you over; if you're a fanatic, then this game will delight you.

Best soccer game ever!!!

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 2 / 2
Date: November 13, 2005
Author: Amazon User

Say EA, what??? EA sports with their fifa does not come nearly this game. First of all, the graphics are great and you can play the game in third person view (you have to unlock this feature). So far , this is the best soccer game I've ever played. I own the FIFA 06 also but it is nothing like this game. If you are a soccer fan, you should pick this one up. Thumbs up!!!

Best Soccer Game

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 2 / 2
Date: November 20, 2005
Author: Amazon User

This is the best soccer game out. Way better than Fifa. The only thing bad,which i could care less about is that the jerseys are wrong and the team names arent right(Barclays Premier) Who Cares tho. Thats why they got the edit mode. Everyone who likes this game should be looking forward to Winning Eleven 9,which comes out in Febuary. Will be 10 times as better. (Online!)

No frills... addictive gameplay

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 4 / 6
Date: February 12, 2005
Author: Amazon User

This is definitely a no frills soccer game. The menus are crap. The music sounds like it was ripped from some 80's action flick. The graphics are pretty good but it looks like we've hit the wall with this generation of consoles, so you feel like your looking at every other soccer game around. The manner in which you save games and highlights is clumsy. And I'm sure there's more stuff but I've only owned it for about 24hrs.

What stood out is the game play and physics. There must be hundreds of player animations, all extremely realistic, that tie together seemlessly. Players stumble, trip up, dive, roll over and over like Klinsman back in the day, get pushed aside, throw up their arms in dismay when they miss an easy chance (and sometimes cover their faces and drop to their knees), dispute throw-ins and fouls with the ref, reel from a powerful shot, and so on. It's all these manerisms that you take for granted when you watch live soccer on the TV, but appreciate so much in this game because it's obvious that the designers cared about making it as realistic as possible. It's all in the details. The game play itself is smooth and intuitive. If you've played FIFA for donkey's years because it's the only soccer game of note in North America, then you can dive into this one very quickly. Once you get up to speed you will find that games flow nicely and are very challenging. The opposition AI makes for a tough game at higher difficulty levels and goals won't come easily. Stadiums are varied, more so than in FIFA. The way the grass has been cut, the quality of the pitch, the type of netting used in the goal, the closeness of the crowd to the pitch, all vary as they should. I love the way the ball behaves in wet weather, stopping up short and kicking up sprays of water every time it hits the turf. The way the netting responds to the ball hitting it at different angles and speeds is a thing of beauty. I look for all of these small details in a soccer game, and I was pleasantly surprised here.

Overall it's a bare bones package with high quality game play and incredible attention to detail. As far as licenses go you get the Spanish and Italian leagues and maybe a couple more, but the others are all fictional with some real names thrown in. Giggs plays for Man Red apparently. There seem to be plenty of other features like training, cup competitions, editing capabilities, etc. that I don't really care about. I just want an entertaining and realistic soccer experience and this game delivers.

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